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Yet another post on Portals

by Andrew Brady · in Constructor · 06/14/2009 (1:15 pm) · 6 replies

I have spent the last 3 days searching the forums on Portals to no avail.

Using: Constructor 1.03 ----- (I tried 1.05 and it screwed up my ability to create and save lighting)

When I create portals, some work and some do not even when made exactly the same fashion.. even when copying and pasting. Most of the time, when I cross through the portals, the entire area past it to the next portal disappears completely.

What I have checked:

- No portals are sharing the same plain.
- They are set appropriately as Portals in Constructor
- They are square / normal shaped brushes
- The are .01 units think and are slightly buried in the structural brushes around them
- No detail brushes being used at all.


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Torque Owner ChrisG
#1
06/14/2009 (8:25 pm)
I too have never had much luck getting portals to work in Constructor - even when keeping to all the rules as laid out in the documentation. I've even tried rotating the portal and using different faces as the portal face as was suggested in another thread, but still no luck.

It would be great if this could be solved as I really want to use Constructor, but due to need for portals in our project it just doesn't cut it.

Constructor's inability to create portals is the main reason why I've gone back to using Quark.

Torque 3D Owner Andrew Brady
#2
06/15/2009 (4:53 pm)
Yea, I also tried the rotating to no effect. How do you create them in quark?

Torque Owner SqHd
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#3
06/15/2009 (6:58 pm)
Hey guys, try Constructor 1.04. It has a fix for portals.

"1.This version fixes a bug where portals are incorrectly created if the brush has been stretched or rotated after creation."

Here's the link: www.aztica.com/images/constructor_update.zip

Hopefully, the lighting features still work in this version so you can have the best of both worlds! (I didn't even notice the lighting issue b/c I was creating all static and dynamic lights in TGEA.)

Anyway, hope this helps!

Torque 3D Owner Andrew Brady
#4
06/15/2009 (8:28 pm)
Thanks Kerry, after installing the update from your link, all my portals work fine now.

Now two things have started though...

1) error: must have one and only one zone to be a traversal root (null) has 2

2) 1.04 started removing pieces of faces even with HSR turned off (and sun off).

The first one I believe has something to do with two dif's touching I guess? If so I need to find a way around that because they have to touch. The second.. unless I'm missing something I'll need to find a way around this as well.

Torque Owner ChrisG
#5
06/15/2009 (10:24 pm)
@Andrew: yeah you're right about the first problem being to do with 2 difs touching. You need to make sure that the brushes on the outside of your DIF that may touch other difs, are not brushes that contain zoned areas. (eg a house wall that is on the very edge of the dif)

@Kerry: Thanks - I'll be trying that update see if it fixes the portal problem - I've been using 1.0.51

Torque Owner SqHd
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#6
06/16/2009 (2:03 pm)
@ChrisG - No prob. If you've been using 1.0.51, portals should be fine since it includes all the fixes from 1.04.

@Andrew - sorry, I don't have enough Constructor experience to help with that. I do think version 1.0.51 was better with those types of issues (concerning the missing faces).