Employee editing posts for no reason ?
by TheGasMan · in General Discussion · 08/05/2008 (1:27 am) · 11 replies
/ I am not here to offend, but rather to try and understand why this happens. /
A few people mentioned/asked somethings that were completely within topic range on this blog page:
http://www.garagegames.com/blogs/37490/15191
-> Joshua, the author, felt the need to remove posts that didn't fit his idea of what should be posted.
I know this is not the first time this has happened here and I assume it is done to protect the marketing strategies. However, isn't this a bit over-stepping the bounds of ethics and logic since the now-removed-posts were completely within the range of the blog topic ?
I would understand why the posts were removed if they contained vulgarities or name calling but there was clearly nothing bad.
- It appears that he only wants to leave posts that praise what he has blogged.
Can I say I think that is shabby ? ..or is this too harsh ?
Oh well, life goes on..
cheers
P.S. I edit-posted a different note in that blog..and he edited it again. :/
@ Joshua, aren't people allowed to ask questions and have opinions ?
Choosing to answer/reply to the posts would have been a better choice imo.
A few people mentioned/asked somethings that were completely within topic range on this blog page:
http://www.garagegames.com/blogs/37490/15191
-> Joshua, the author, felt the need to remove posts that didn't fit his idea of what should be posted.
I know this is not the first time this has happened here and I assume it is done to protect the marketing strategies. However, isn't this a bit over-stepping the bounds of ethics and logic since the now-removed-posts were completely within the range of the blog topic ?
I would understand why the posts were removed if they contained vulgarities or name calling but there was clearly nothing bad.
- It appears that he only wants to leave posts that praise what he has blogged.
Can I say I think that is shabby ? ..or is this too harsh ?
Oh well, life goes on..
cheers
P.S. I edit-posted a different note in that blog..and he edited it again. :/
@ Joshua, aren't people allowed to ask questions and have opinions ?
Choosing to answer/reply to the posts would have been a better choice imo.
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#2
Honestly, you have no real way of knowing why they were deemed off topic.
If you want to ask a question, why not try the forums?
08/05/2008 (2:09 am)
Looks to me like he felt that the edited comments were off topic compared to his intentions for the blog posting.Honestly, you have no real way of knowing why they were deemed off topic.
If you want to ask a question, why not try the forums?
#3
I for one have no comment on the esteemed joshua dallman. He may have his reasons for being over bearing and tyrannical. who knows. But whats good for one should be good for all. Or he could personnally go around and edit all the blogs and make sure they fall within the guidelines and scope of the blog within.
But other then that your best bet is to just stop commenting in the blog of anyone who takes issue with what is written.
There are many other blogs in the sea.. :)
Just my thoughts, edit them as needed. :)
TomFeni
08/05/2008 (3:12 am)
I think we should all get the power to edit our blogs, to include other peoples posts. I for one have no comment on the esteemed joshua dallman. He may have his reasons for being over bearing and tyrannical. who knows. But whats good for one should be good for all. Or he could personnally go around and edit all the blogs and make sure they fall within the guidelines and scope of the blog within.
But other then that your best bet is to just stop commenting in the blog of anyone who takes issue with what is written.
There are many other blogs in the sea.. :)
Just my thoughts, edit them as needed. :)
TomFeni
#4
If I'm not mistaken the comments were about an issue which has already been discussed to death. And if you really have to discuss it further, there are certainly better places than a persons blog entry to do it.
08/05/2008 (5:33 am)
I don't see the problem with people wanting to control what's in their own blog.If I'm not mistaken the comments were about an issue which has already been discussed to death. And if you really have to discuss it further, there are certainly better places than a persons blog entry to do it.
#5
If the comments were on topic (I have no idea what they were about) then it really isn't the best idea to be censoring imo :S
08/05/2008 (5:57 am)
If you don't want comments, then disable them. Don't edit them as it makes you look like a berk. Also obviously we don't have the ability to do that to ours.If the comments were on topic (I have no idea what they were about) then it really isn't the best idea to be censoring imo :S
#6
08/05/2008 (6:13 am)
I have no idea what they were about, but I have had to edit comments and posts due to inflammatory content. I always note why I edited them, however, just like I try to note why I made any edit to my posts here or abroad. He did note that he considered them off-topic, though I have no idea what the content of them was. I read the blog when it was first posted and missed the comments that came after. Did you ask him why he considered it off-topic? Josh has always been very approachable from my experience.
#7
Editing when there is offensive content etc is fine - I count that as a whole different situation to someone just putting an opinion etc. Its especially good to put what the edits were too. (I often add a little one liner at the bottom explaining too)
I'm just a little baffled like you as to what the posts actually were :)
08/05/2008 (6:19 am)
David,Editing when there is offensive content etc is fine - I count that as a whole different situation to someone just putting an opinion etc. Its especially good to put what the edits were too. (I often add a little one liner at the bottom explaining too)
I'm just a little baffled like you as to what the posts actually were :)
#8
There's one that was removed which was a LOL at Joshua's comment above, quoting the continued lack of OpenGL support for TGEA as the cause for the LOL. Seemed on-topic to me, although obviously not something GG wanted to see.
08/05/2008 (6:21 am)
Quote:We are committed to multi-platform functionality
There's one that was removed which was a LOL at Joshua's comment above, quoting the continued lack of OpenGL support for TGEA as the cause for the LOL. Seemed on-topic to me, although obviously not something GG wanted to see.
#9
I can only assume things started to go downhill after that and that Josh decided to nip it in the bud.
08/05/2008 (6:27 am)
As I remember from the last time I saw that blog, which was 3 or 4 days ago, someone rather quickly started in with some flamebait in regards to multi-platform and Torque. It was basically someone ranting in the comments saying that calling Torque multi-platform was a joke because of the status with TGEA and OpenGL blah blah blah blah, etc, etc.I can only assume things started to go downhill after that and that Josh decided to nip it in the bud.
#10
With that said, GarageGames rarely will edit or remove posts unless they are nasty pieces of troll induced garbage. The site has been pretty free or open to honest critism and comments, so complaining about what little editing and control goes on is not necessary.
08/05/2008 (8:00 am)
I hate to break it to you guys but this is GarageGames site and the internet is not freedom or democratic. Its a dictatorship ruled by whomever's site or server you are visiting and as such if the host chooses to edit comments made on his site, either because they feel that they are innapropriate or because they could make the site itself legally liable for leaving the comments there, then we must abide by that descision regardless if we agree with it or not.With that said, GarageGames rarely will edit or remove posts unless they are nasty pieces of troll induced garbage. The site has been pretty free or open to honest critism and comments, so complaining about what little editing and control goes on is not necessary.
#11
08/05/2008 (10:59 am)
The blog in question is mine. This was not a decision by GarageGames to edit the comments, this was MY personal decision. The blog was about underutilized features in Torque and how those features can help independent developers. One person replied complaining about no OpenGL support in TGEA and two others joined the fray. My blog about underutilized features in Torque is NOT THE PLACE to complain about that stuff. It was unprofessional and on a personal level I found it totally offensive. I welcome comments in my blog that are on topic, but if you're going to be a child and flame and trash GG's products, do it elsewhere. I will not be looking at this thread again, email me directly if you have a problem with that. 
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