Does Torque game Engine advance come with Torque game engine

#1 Torque Advanced is a beast that will take you time to learn especially if you havent used torque before. Torque is a semi-beginner engine that is not as hard but not easy either. They are separate engines and can be purchased seperatly from each other. Neither one comes with the other.

#2 Both are separate engines, and while it's true that neither engine comes with the other, it technically isn't. At some point in the past 6 months or so GG added an upgrade path from TGE to TGEA. It could be that this upgrade path was there the entire time and I wasn't aware of it due being an Early Adopter, but I only became aware of it 6 months ago.

For the same price of an Indie TGEA license you can buy an Indie TGE license and then buy an Indie TGEA license through the upgrade option.

#3 So then the best thing do is to buy the TGE, build the your game on that. Once you are in need of the advance features, port it over to TGEA? I recently bought TGEA first assuming, that TGE would come also with. But if i already own a copy of TGEA is there point in buying TGE?

#4 If you already bought TGEA you might as well learn on that.

#5 Well, there are advantages to keeping TGE around. I like to still use it for fast prototypes as well as games for lower spec machines.

#6 Really? I thought TGEA was just a better version of TGE?
(an expansion pack, if you will)

#7 TGEA = TGE with some advanced features.
TGE is well supported in the forums because it was released long before TGEA.
Much of the code examples in the private forums are from TGE but can be converted to TGEA.
TGEA is backward compatible to TGE code in that respect.

The lack of TGEA specific code is simply because the answers for most things are already in TGE form and with some finger wiggling can be ported to TGEA without too much effort.

TGEA code is specific to itself is what Im trying to convey here.
Since you already bought TGEA, congratulations on your purchase. I have done the same thing.

Why? well i liken it to Buying a Cadillac and getting free extra sets of Tires and lifetime oil changes for free as opposed to buying a Cadillac and doing your own repairs in the garage.
Somethings just need to be done by others..Thats why i went with TGEA.

Also, i don't believe people need to learn Basic language, when they can jump right into learning C++.

Proof was while in Computer Science, our Teacher who was well versed in C++.. Had to learn Assembler while he was teaching us.. not usually a good sign.. But he pulled it off, and we all got a basic knowledge of ASM, and he likely got a pay raise.

Since you now are going to buy a game Engine anyway, why limit yourself? Go full Hog and get the Meat and Potatoes.. go TGEA and learn it straight up.
If you get stuck along the way and cannot seem to figure it out, then there is always the Forums, both Public and the Private versions to get help.

#8 Your absolutely right! That was my thinking when i bought TGEA. I was just concerned that i might have missed some features in TGE. Since there is a lot more help on TGE, but like you said its been around much longer.

#9 Describing TGEA simply as TGE with advanced features is a little wrong I believe. There are some big differences between the two. One being the completely rewritten graphics layer, and of course all the 1.5 code isn't in TGEA, yet.

#10 The big reason I avoided TGEA was the lack of support for Linux/Mac. Just keep that in mind when comparing the two engines.