Why does Torque Skip frames with my PC
by Taz · in Torque Game Engine · 12/02/2006 (10:10 am) · 6 replies
Hi in fact I am facing this trouble since i have over clocked my PC i have AMD 4200+ and it runs on 2.222 MHZ my mother board is Asus A8N-SLI and Geforce 7800GTX and I encounter frame skips with torque game engine and also the new game made using torque game engine the saints and sinners bowling, please if am missing any information just ask me I will provide whatever you need to solve my problem. help meeee
#2
12/02/2006 (4:23 pm)
You probably overclocked to high, either bring it back down or increase the voltage.
#3
12/03/2006 (4:19 pm)
Thanks for your help bodies... that's what I have discovered, since I have water cooling solution I don't care about heat that much, what made torque skip frames, is that I over clocked the Mobo+CPU with Nvidia ntune wizard that lets you overclock your CPU, Motherboard and your graphics card inside windows, furthermore I didn't fix the multiplier and Hyper threading speed ratio in the BIOS, this was the cause of the problem, at least it worked for me and as I have mentioned above the Multiplier and HTT ratios was set to auto thus the CPU speed is Dynamic and it seems torque checks for the speed at the beginning of it's initialization, after that speed changes, I think that was the cause.
#4
12/03/2006 (5:00 pm)
Something i have noticed with Geforce video cards is even if they seem to be working when over clocked, they tend to lockup for periods of time. I expect they may have some build in thermal protection and simply slow down to cool off. I also use a water cooled computer, (for the noise factor from the fans) but the video card is still cooled by its own little fan and heat sink. I was able to get my video card OC'ed by 350mhz (ram speed) but only to discover the same problem you have mentioned, by activating the case fan i found it was able to cool the video card just enough to stop the stuttering. But in the end i reverted to non-over clocked settings so i could better judge my Torque projects performance in standard environments.
#5
Settings:
Reference clock (HTT): 231 MHz - it should be 200 MHz
CPU Multiplier: 11.0x
CPU core frequency: 2541 MHz - originally 2200 MHz
HT multiplier: 5x
Memory clock: 400 (DDR) MHz
Memory bus frequency: 462 MHz - Should be 400 MHz
Reference clock PCI-E: 2500 MHz - I never touched this since it's too dangerous for the graphics card and can get it burned.
I am not sure even when I have tried to fix the problem it worked for a while but when I leaved my PC and came back later the problem showed again, I will try now to bring all the settings back to original and fix every setting and make sure nothing is dynamic, I will experiment and then post again. what a nightmare!
12/04/2006 (10:42 am)
Don't know but it seems the problem persists even when I have fixed the multiplier and HTT ratio my settings as following please anyone who knows why this really happens please post your experience as I tried solving it, I really don't know why torque really acts like that:Settings:
Reference clock (HTT): 231 MHz - it should be 200 MHz
CPU Multiplier: 11.0x
CPU core frequency: 2541 MHz - originally 2200 MHz
HT multiplier: 5x
Memory clock: 400 (DDR) MHz
Memory bus frequency: 462 MHz - Should be 400 MHz
Reference clock PCI-E: 2500 MHz - I never touched this since it's too dangerous for the graphics card and can get it burned.
I am not sure even when I have tried to fix the problem it worked for a while but when I leaved my PC and came back later the problem showed again, I will try now to bring all the settings back to original and fix every setting and make sure nothing is dynamic, I will experiment and then post again. what a nightmare!
#6
This is where i spend my morning meditations, from the LINKS you can get into all types of over clocking information. Would also be a better place to seek deeper solutions.
12/04/2006 (11:35 am)
Have you tried another fan? inside the case, pushing the HOT air out? How about leaving your case OPEN... I think the first thing to do is see if some little part of the full system is suffering from too much heat. Try dropping back a bit on the OC' its not a successfully over clock until the system is 100% stable. You never mention if you upped any of the volt lines, an extra .1 to the ram and chipset would never hurt, and most cpu's can take a range of power. This is where i spend my morning meditations, from the LINKS you can get into all types of over clocking information. Would also be a better place to seek deeper solutions.
Torque 3D Owner Caylo Gypsyblood
Try cooling your computer better and see if frame skips go away....