Need help with performance
by Hewster · in Torque Game Engine Advanced · 09/16/2006 (8:39 am) · 34 replies
Hi,
Have just finished porting a map from TLK1.4 to current TSE ms4
in TLK I get around 104 fps, in TSE I'm seeing just 0.5 to 0.8fps !
Note this is done with un-modified engine code too.
Geomarty is identical, textures are identical, terrain is identical... WTF is going on :(
Material wise in TSE I've simply created basic materials, with no shader passes, like so:
TGE:
TSE:
Anyone got any suggestions as to what is going on ?
Thanks in advance
Hewster
Have just finished porting a map from TLK1.4 to current TSE ms4
in TLK I get around 104 fps, in TSE I'm seeing just 0.5 to 0.8fps !
Note this is done with un-modified engine code too.
Geomarty is identical, textures are identical, terrain is identical... WTF is going on :(
Material wise in TSE I've simply created basic materials, with no shader passes, like so:
new Material(building_a)
{
baseTex[0] = "building_a";
};TGE:
TSE:
Anyone got any suggestions as to what is going on ?
Thanks in advance
Hewster
#2
Will give that a try (its legacy terrain btw)
also there are no lights what so ever, only the sun light.
My basic machine specs are:
AMD 3200XP
1GB DDR Ram
Geforce 6800GT (128Mb) (91.31 drivers)
Windows XP pro
09/16/2006 (9:45 am)
Hi Stefan, thanks for the reply,Will give that a try (its legacy terrain btw)
also there are no lights what so ever, only the sun light.
My basic machine specs are:
AMD 3200XP
1GB DDR Ram
Geforce 6800GT (128Mb) (91.31 drivers)
Windows XP pro
#3
Can you update the thread when you've tried removing the terrain? Thanks.
09/16/2006 (9:49 am)
OK that's definatly not normal. Can you update the thread when you've tried removing the terrain? Thanks.
#4
Then I tried re-texturing all the models (six in total) with a single 256x256 texture...
and now see 120fps... so it seems to be an issue with the amount of texture memory
I'm using.
Brian / Ben Is this to be expected ?
If so Its a bit of a blow for me, was really hoping to use TSE for my game,
but if it cannot handle the same amount of textures as TGE then well :(
Hewster
09/16/2006 (10:22 am)
Ok, tried removing the terrain, fps goes up to around 1 - 1.5Then I tried re-texturing all the models (six in total) with a single 256x256 texture...
and now see 120fps... so it seems to be an issue with the amount of texture memory
I'm using.
Brian / Ben Is this to be expected ?
If so Its a bit of a blow for me, was really hoping to use TSE for my game,
but if it cannot handle the same amount of textures as TGE then well :(
Hewster
#5
09/16/2006 (10:42 am)
Sounds like a bug. Are any of your textures non-standard size? Maybe a non-power 2 issue? I have a 6800 also and I usually get 100-200 fps depending on the scene.
#6
I'm gona try slowly increasing the amount of textures in the scene and see
what results I get... will post my results.
BTW, does anyone know any other "metrics" ?
In the engine I'm used to (RtCW / Quake3) its easy to display
tris count, tex mem used ect, just wondering if TSE has similar
"debug" options.
09/16/2006 (11:31 am)
Hi JC, yep all textures are under 512x512 and all the power of 2.I'm gona try slowly increasing the amount of textures in the scene and see
what results I get... will post my results.
BTW, does anyone know any other "metrics" ?
In the engine I'm used to (RtCW / Quake3) its easy to display
tris count, tex mem used ect, just wondering if TSE has similar
"debug" options.
#7
So it sounds like a bug.
09/16/2006 (12:21 pm)
I use 512x512 textures and around 14 unique ones for one of our interiors, with bumpmaps and sometimes glow. Running on a 6800, Fps is between 190-333.So it sounds like a bug.
#8
First off, whats the memory of your 6800's ? mines 128Mb (poor mans 6800 lol)
Now, I've done some tests with various amounts of textures within the map,
here are my results:
These readings are taken as follows:
Game starts in Windowed mode with player in the middle
of the map, walk around the map, and goto the start
position (as shown in the screenies in my first post),
then read FPS.
Next goto fullscreen (ALT + ENTER), walk around the
map, and return to start position: read FPS
Go back to windowed mode (ALT + ENTER), walk around
the map, and return to start: read FPS
10 textures of 512 x 512
1 texture of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 25fps
goto fullscreen = 115fps
back to windowed = 25fps
===================================
9 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 20fps
goto fullscreen = 120fps
back to windowed = 110fps
===================================
8 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 100fps
goto fullscreen = 120fps
back to windowed = 110fps
===================================
All tex with unique bump & spec lighting
8 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 25fps
goto fullscreen = 90fps
back to windowed = 25fps
I havent tried, but will guess that 7 of 512 x 512 texures bumped is the limit
for my machine to ensure good, stable fps.
Would really like to hear from Ben or Brian, am prepared to package up my test
projects for others to try on their systems too... basically I really want TSE
to work for me... been waiting soooo long :)
Hewster
09/16/2006 (1:32 pm)
Thanks for the responces guys, its really apprciated :)First off, whats the memory of your 6800's ? mines 128Mb (poor mans 6800 lol)
Now, I've done some tests with various amounts of textures within the map,
here are my results:
These readings are taken as follows:
Game starts in Windowed mode with player in the middle
of the map, walk around the map, and goto the start
position (as shown in the screenies in my first post),
then read FPS.
Next goto fullscreen (ALT + ENTER), walk around the
map, and return to start position: read FPS
Go back to windowed mode (ALT + ENTER), walk around
the map, and return to start: read FPS
10 textures of 512 x 512
1 texture of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 25fps
goto fullscreen = 115fps
back to windowed = 25fps
===================================
9 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 20fps
goto fullscreen = 120fps
back to windowed = 110fps
===================================
8 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 100fps
goto fullscreen = 120fps
back to windowed = 110fps
===================================
All tex with unique bump & spec lighting
8 of 512 x 512
1 of 256 x 256
Start windowed = 25fps
goto fullscreen = 90fps
back to windowed = 25fps
I havent tried, but will guess that 7 of 512 x 512 texures bumped is the limit
for my machine to ensure good, stable fps.
Would really like to hear from Ben or Brian, am prepared to package up my test
projects for others to try on their systems too... basically I really want TSE
to work for me... been waiting soooo long :)
Hewster
#9
09/16/2006 (9:21 pm)
256 megs here on the 6800. What format are you using on your textures? If your using PNG, TGA or something similar then it's going to eat through the video memory quickly. You might want to try saving them as a compressed DDS if you are. 
#10
The output from that should indicate what's up - you can paste it here for us to look at.
Do you have latest drivers? Are you running a release build of TSE? The profiler should give us something to go on in troubleshooting.
09/16/2006 (9:35 pm)
Turn on the profiler and see where your time is going. It could be something related to graphics, or could be just something dumb that's eating a ton of time.profilerEnable(true); // close console and wait a while profilerDump();
The output from that should indicate what's up - you can paste it here for us to look at.
Do you have latest drivers? Are you running a release build of TSE? The profiler should give us something to go on in troubleshooting.
#11
use would be converted internally to either a DX compressed texture, or "raw".
by "raw" I mean for instance a 512 x 512 32bit tex would use 512 x 512 x 32 bits of memory
(= 8399608 bits = 8192Kb = 8Mb) I'm using .jpg btw.
Perhaps Ben can tell us :)
@Ben, thanks for the profiler tip. My current build of TSE is based off current HEAD CVS,
and is a release compile. My GFX drivers are the latest from Nvidia.
Don't really know what I'm looking at with the dump :/ a quick "how too"
would be great... please :)
EDIT: AHHHH had to split post because the forum doesn't like more than 8192 characters
(spooky there is that number again lol) Can someone please do something about this ?
I've just spent nearly 10 minutes fucking about working out how much of the dump I can put
in a single post... NOT FUNNY !
Please see next post for my dump, which was made using the original map (1fps)
Cheers
Hewster
09/16/2006 (11:51 pm)
@J.C does it matter what format the original textures are? I thought whatever format youuse would be converted internally to either a DX compressed texture, or "raw".
by "raw" I mean for instance a 512 x 512 32bit tex would use 512 x 512 x 32 bits of memory
(= 8399608 bits = 8192Kb = 8Mb) I'm using .jpg btw.
Perhaps Ben can tell us :)
@Ben, thanks for the profiler tip. My current build of TSE is based off current HEAD CVS,
and is a release compile. My GFX drivers are the latest from Nvidia.
Don't really know what I'm looking at with the dump :/ a quick "how too"
would be great... please :)
EDIT: AHHHH had to split post because the forum doesn't like more than 8192 characters
(spooky there is that number again lol) Can someone please do something about this ?
I've just spent nearly 10 minutes fucking about working out how much of the dump I can put
in a single post... NOT FUNNY !
Please see next post for my dump, which was made using the original map (1fps)
Cheers
Hewster
#12
09/16/2006 (11:57 pm)
Ordered by stack trace total time - % Time % NSTime Invoke # Name 0.151 -99.849 0 ROOT 100.000 0.016 12319 MainLoop 98.338 0.175 12319 TimeManagerProcessMain 98.163 0.050 12319 ProcessTimeEvent 96.912 0.019 12319 RenderFrame 79.781 5.688 12319 CanvasRenderControls 64.412 0.027 12319 GameRenderWorld 64.384 0.077 12319 SceneGraphRender 60.598 51.648 12319 TraverseScene 7.527 0.062 12319 TerrainRender 5.813 0.072 12319 TerrainRenderEmit 4.331 0.303 753177 TerrainRenderStep 3.712 0.247 2919413 TerrainRenderStepChunk 3.213 0.185 2919413 TerrainRender_renderChunkNormal 2.151 0.565 2919413 TR_chunkFormer 0.645 0.645 2919413 TR_center 0.266 0.172 2919413 TR_e3fix 0.094 0.094 2919413 TR_fixEdge 0.263 0.164 2919413 TR_e2fix 0.099 0.099 2919413 TR_fixEdge 0.225 0.225 2919413 TR_corners 0.099 0.088 2919413 TR_e0fix 0.011 0.011 282979 TR_fixEdge 0.088 0.077 2919413 TR_e1fix 0.012 0.012 209508 TR_fixEdge 0.877 0.119 2919413 TR_chunkLatter 0.610 0.610 366382 TR_levelMinusOne 0.133 0.133 2540408 TR_subDivLvl1Plus 0.015 0.015 12623 TR_subDivLvl0 0.243 0.222 172482 MemoryRealloc 0.012 0.012 87812 MemoryFree 0.005 0.005 175624 Mutex_lockMutex 0.004 0.004 175624 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.006 0.006 184801 Mutex_lockMutex 0.004 0.004 184801 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.316 0.163 2919413 Terrain_batchEnd 0.153 0.153 2919413 Terrain_TexGen 1.306 0.047 12319 Terrain_batchEnd 0.921 0.921 12319 TRender_DIP 0.336 0.256 12319 Terrain_bufferCopy 0.036 0.036 12319 Terrain_bufferCopy_lockP 0.035 0.035 12319 Terrain_bufferCopy_lockV 0.005 0.005 12319 Terrain_bufferCopy_unlockP 0.004 0.004 12319 Terrain_bufferCopy_unlockV 0.001 0.001 36957 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 36957 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.068 0.068 12319 AllocatedTexture_trimFreeList 0.000 0.000 119 AllocatedTexture_freeTex 0.000 0.000 119 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 119 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 119 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.036 0.036 765496 TerrTexture_getNextFrameTex 1.556 1.337 12319 TerrainRenderRecurse 0.142 0.142 3577691 TerrainRender_testSquareVisibility 0.077 0.050 753177 AllocatedTexture_alloc 0.027 0.027 122 TerrainTextureBuildBlendMap 0.000 0.000 1098 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 2565 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 2565 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 122 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 122 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.096 0.078 12319 TerrainRenderSetup 0.017 0.017 12319 TerrainRender_buildClippingPlanes 0.504 0.499 12319 sgShadowProjector_sgRender 0.003 0.003 21439 MemoryFree 0.002 0.002 25999 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 25999 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.430 0.413 12319 SkyRender 0.007 0.007 271018 Mutex_lockMutex 0.005 0.005 271018 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.004 0.004 135509 MemoryFree 0.350 0.342 12319 Glow 0.003 0.003 36957 MemoryFree 0.003 0.003 73914 Mutex_lockMutex 0.002 0.002 73914 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.055 0.055 12319 RIM_sort 0.038 0.009 12319 sgShadowProjector_sgCalculateBoundingBox 0.024 0.024 282 sgShadowProjector_sgCalculateBoundingBox_Part 0.000 0.000 282 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 564 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 564 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.005 0.005 282 sgShadowProjector_sgCalculateBoundingBox_find 0.028 0.028 194994 MemoryFree 0.010 0.010 271358 Mutex_lockMutex 0.006 0.006 271358 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.002 0.002 12319 GetLightingAmbientColor 2.747 0.425 12319 BuildSceneTree 2.183 1.086 24638 TSShapeInstanceRender 1.012 0.695 12319 UpdateSkin 0.316 0.316 12319 CreateVBIB 0.029 0.029 1428372 Mutex_lockMutex 0.026 0.026 665226 MemoryFree 0.023 0.023 1428372 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.004 0.004 24638 TSShapeInstanceMaterials 0.002 0.002 24638 TSShapeInstanceRenderBillboards 0.089 0.087 12319 ContainerFindObjects 0.001 0.001 12319 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 12319 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.020 0.020 12319 ContainerCastRay 0.019 0.010 24638 GetLightingAmbientColor 0.009 0.009 3283 ContainerCastRay 0.007 0.005 1760 InteriorPrepRenderImage 0.002 0.002 1760 InteriorZoneTraversal 0.000 0.000 1760 InteriorTraverseZone 0.000 0.000 955 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 955 Mutex_lockMutex 0.002 0.002 36957 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 12319 MemoryFree 0.001 0.001 36957 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.932 0.932 12319 BuildFogTexture 0.018 0.018 12319 RegisterLights 0.005 0.005 24961 MemoryFree 0.002 0.002 12319 UnregisterLights 0.002 0.002 49599 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 49599 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.001 0.001 12319 SG_FindZone 0.002 0.002 12319 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 12319 Mutex_unlockMutex 7.869 7.228 553213 GFXDevice_drawTextN 0.568 0.568 41749234 NewFontGetCharInfo 0.032 0.032 1157647 Mutex_lockMutex 0.022 0.022 604434 MemoryFree 0.019 0.019 1157647 Mutex_unlockMutex 1.469 1.029 580887 convertUTF8toUTF16 0.441 0.441 26132149 oneUTF8toUTF32
#13
09/16/2006 (11:57 pm)
0.121 0.121 12319 ContainerCastRay 0.053 0.053 1906917 Mutex_lockMutex 0.052 0.042 12319 GFXBeginScene 0.010 0.010 12319 GuiCanvas_updateReflections 0.036 0.036 1906917 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.036 0.024 19524 convertUTF16toUTF8 0.006 0.006 318780 oneUTF16toUTF32 0.005 0.005 318780 oneUTF32toUTF8 0.033 0.033 913949 MemoryFree 0.008 0.006 15478 MemoryRealloc 0.001 0.001 21768 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 10884 MemoryFree 0.001 0.001 21768 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.004 0.004 294112 NewFontGetCharInfo 16.994 16.994 12319 SwapBuffers 0.111 0.100 12319 CanvasPreRender 0.010 0.010 31261 NewFontGetCharInfo 0.000 0.000 2 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 2 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.002 0.001 591 convertUTF8toUTF16 0.001 0.001 31261 oneUTF8toUTF32 0.000 0.000 15 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 15 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.007 0.007 12319 GFXEndScene 0.900 0.141 12319 ClientProcess 0.756 0.610 12319 AdvanceClientTime 0.072 0.010 6001 AdvanceObjects 0.063 0.002 6001 Player_ProcessTick 0.060 0.038 6001 Player_PhysicsSection 0.022 0.006 6001 Player_UpdatePos 0.013 0.004 6001 SceneObjectSetTransform 0.003 0.001 6001 SG_ZoneInsert 0.002 0.002 6001 SG_Rezone 0.003 0.003 6001 CheckBins 0.000 0.000 20 InsertBins 0.000 0.000 20 RemoveFromBins 0.001 0.001 6001 SceneObj_setRenderTransform 0.001 0.001 6001 SG_ZoneRemove 0.003 0.003 6001 ContainerFindObjects 0.000 0.000 40 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 13 MemoryRealloc 0.000 0.000 2 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 4 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 4 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 94 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 94 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 189 ContainerFindObjects 0.000 0.000 189 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 189 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 310 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 430 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 430 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.047 0.046 12318 UpdateActionThread 0.001 0.001 303 convertUTF8toUTF16 0.000 0.000 12120 oneUTF8toUTF32 0.000 0.000 101 ContainerCastRay 0.000 0.000 101 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 101 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.014 0.014 27169 SceneObj_setRenderTransform 0.013 0.010 15226 SceneObjectSetTransform 0.004 0.004 15226 SceneObj_setRenderTransform 0.002 0.002 1081 ContainerCastRay 0.000 0.000 294 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 630 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 630 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.200 0.006 12319 ServerProcess 0.194 0.025 12319 AdvanceServerTime 0.168 0.024 6001 AdvanceObjects 0.144 0.013 5997 Player_ProcessTick 0.124 0.075 5997 Player_PhysicsSection 0.048 0.022 5997 Player_UpdatePos 0.022 0.009 5997 SceneObjectSetTransform 0.006 0.006 5997 CheckBins 0.000 0.000 20 InsertBins 0.000 0.000 20 RemoveFromBins 0.004 0.002 5997 SG_ZoneInsert 0.003 0.003 5997 SG_Rezone 0.002 0.002 5997 SceneObj_setRenderTransform 0.001 0.001 5997 SG_ZoneRemove 0.004 0.004 5997 ContainerFindObjects 0.001 0.001 6090 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 6090 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 13 MemoryRealloc 0.000 0.000 5 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 10 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 10 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 40 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 189 ContainerFindObjects 0.000 0.000 189 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 189 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 310 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 430 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 430 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.007 0.007 5997 UpdateActionThread 0.043 0.039 12319 ClientNetProcess 0.002 0.002 9839 SceneObj_setRenderTransform 0.001 0.001 5825 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 12391 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 12391 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.039 0.036 12319 ServerNetProcess 0.001 0.001 7837 MemoryFree 0.001 0.001 14933 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 14933 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 1271 SG_FindZone 0.020 0.017 12319 SimAdvanceTime 0.002 0.002 19231 Mutex_lockMutex 0.001 0.001 19231 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 2688 MemoryFree 1.526 1.520 12319 PlatformProcessMain 0.006 0.005 275 ProcessInputEvent 0.000 0.000 1497 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 3313 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 45 convertUTF16toUTF8 0.000 0.000 791 oneUTF16toUTF32 0.000 0.000 791 oneUTF32toUTF8 0.000 0.000 3313 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 7 MemoryRealloc 0.000 0.000 2 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 4 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 4 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 2 convertUTF8toUTF16 0.000 0.000 36 oneUTF8toUTF32 0.000 0.000 5 MemoryRealloc 0.000 0.000 1 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 2 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 2 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 17 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 17 Mutex_unlockMutex 0.000 0.000 3 MemoryFree 0.103 0.103 12319 NetProcessMain 0.009 0.009 12319 TelconsoleProcessMain 0.004 0.004 12319 TelDebuggerProcessMain 0.004 0.004 12319 JournalMain 0.000 0.000 1 MemoryFree 0.000 0.000 1 Mutex_lockMutex 0.000 0.000 1 Mutex_unlockMutex
#14
So the first priority should be to find out where that time is going. :)
As you've probably noticed the profiler cues off of PROFILER_START(foo) and PROFILER_END() blocks. You can add blocks as needed to get more info on what's going on. I'd recommend adding them around every renderObject() call in the engine - that should help you nail down where the time's going. Or you can use your intuition. :)
Remember that every PROFILER_START that's encountered has to be matched by a PROFILER_END no matter what execution path is taken. So watch out for things like:
This will break the profiler if the function takes that return branch. The correct version is:
That way no matter what the PROFILER_START macro will be matched with exactly one PROFILER_END call.
BTW at 32 bit color a 512px image is only one megabyte - you got your bits and bytes mismatched I think. :)
09/17/2006 (12:48 am)
The profiler is reporting that something in scenegraph traversal is taking 50% of your time - waiting on the GPU is only taking a relatively small 16% of the time.So the first priority should be to find out where that time is going. :)
As you've probably noticed the profiler cues off of PROFILER_START(foo) and PROFILER_END() blocks. You can add blocks as needed to get more info on what's going on. I'd recommend adding them around every renderObject() call in the engine - that should help you nail down where the time's going. Or you can use your intuition. :)
Remember that every PROFILER_START that's encountered has to be matched by a PROFILER_END no matter what execution path is taken. So watch out for things like:
PROFILER_START(Foo); if(something) return; PROFILER_END();
This will break the profiler if the function takes that return branch. The correct version is:
PROFILER_START(Foo);
if(something)
{
PROFILE_END();
return;
}
PROFILER_END();That way no matter what the PROFILER_START macro will be matched with exactly one PROFILER_END call.
BTW at 32 bit color a 512px image is only one megabyte - you got your bits and bytes mismatched I think. :)
#15
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The scoped profiler resource, means you don't have to worry about that matching stuff I mentioned.
09/17/2006 (12:49 am)
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The scoped profiler resource, means you don't have to worry about that matching stuff I mentioned.
#16
btw yeah.. err... DOH! ((512x512) / 8) * 32 does indeed = 1Mb :) :blush:
Hewster
09/17/2006 (1:13 am)
Thanks Ben, will try to nail this down :)btw yeah.. err... DOH! ((512x512) / 8) * 32 does indeed = 1Mb :) :blush:
Hewster
#17
That's correct. Dunno what J.C was talking about. He probably assumed jpg's, bmp's and png's were directly uploaded as files into video memory.
So Hewster, how's this going? I'm interested in seeing what your bottleneck was.
That's one bugger :)
09/17/2006 (4:21 am)
Quote:
@J.C does it matter what format the original textures are? I thought whatever format you
use would be converted internally to either a DX compressed texture, or "raw".
That's correct. Dunno what J.C was talking about. He probably assumed jpg's, bmp's and png's were directly uploaded as files into video memory.
So Hewster, how's this going? I'm interested in seeing what your bottleneck was.
60.598 51.648 12319 TraverseScene
That's one bugger :)
#18
debug this further... think I may create several basic diff's (just a cube) each with
a unique texture, and see if I can reproduce this.
That should prove if its actually an issue with my diffs, or indeed as I first thought
an issue with texture memory.
Will keep you updated.
09/17/2006 (5:08 am)
Well its definatly happening in RenderInteriorMgr::render(), but not sure how todebug this further... think I may create several basic diff's (just a cube) each with
a unique texture, and see if I can reproduce this.
That should prove if its actually an issue with my diffs, or indeed as I first thought
an issue with texture memory.
Will keep you updated.
#19
If the time is getting eaten there... well, could be a texture memory issue but I doubt it - that's more likely to show up in SwapBuffers, although I could be wrong. (It's not a scenario I've spent a ton of time in a debugger/profiler with - so my intuition could be way off.)
You could also try putting profiler blocks around different sections of the code in the render call and seeing which section time is going to. That will help nail down where the slowdown is.
09/17/2006 (11:56 am)
What are the values of changeCount, changeVB, and changePB at the end of RenderInteriorMgr::render?If the time is getting eaten there... well, could be a texture memory issue but I doubt it - that's more likely to show up in SwapBuffers, although I could be wrong. (It's not a scenario I've spent a ton of time in a debugger/profiler with - so my intuition could be way off.)
You could also try putting profiler blocks around different sections of the code in the render call and seeing which section time is going to. That will help nail down where the slowdown is.
#20
I ran a few hundred frames to make sure, and it seems they always
reach that value.
Been doing a little bit more profiling, and have narrowed down
the main culprit to:
GFX->drawPrimitive( passRI->primBuffIndex );
in
RenderInteriorMgr::render()
I will continue profiling to try and narrow this down some more :)
Will upload my "game" later so if someone would like to test on
their system they can.
09/17/2006 (4:54 pm)
ChangeCount, changeVB, and changePB all reach 23,I ran a few hundred frames to make sure, and it seems they always
reach that value.
Been doing a little bit more profiling, and have narrowed down
the main culprit to:
GFX->drawPrimitive( passRI->primBuffIndex );
in
RenderInteriorMgr::render()
I will continue profiling to try and narrow this down some more :)
Will upload my "game" later so if someone would like to test on
their system they can.
Torque Owner Stefan Lundmark
Edit: Also, you didnt list your machine specs so its kind of a guess that the above might help.