Forum Etiquette *If your new READ
by Pauliver · in Torque Game Engine Advanced · 07/19/2006 (8:01 am) · 17 replies
1) Be civil, no one wants a flame war.
2) No cross posting, everyone who reads these forums reads all of them, there is no need to post your thread in multiple places
3) use spell check. even though this forum doesn't have a spell check function gmail has one, word has one, and there are many others out there, spellcheck your messages
4) If you find a solution to a problem you posted about, post it at the end of that thread. You are not the only one who reads these forums and someone else will come along who has the same problem.
5) Try to keep Bugs in the bug section, tools in the tools section, ect.. if you don't know where your question goes it probably goes in the "Getting started" section.
6) be as specific as possible
7) know how to ask questions catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
8) Search before asking, no one will bother to answer your question if its the first result on the search list
**WARNING**
I'm not the authority on ANYTHING but after a few days of people posting there question in multiple places and bumping it daily it became CLEAR to me that this post was needed.
Also any statment i make that is all inclusive is not 100% accurate, i can't guarantee what EVERYONE does
**WARNING**
2) No cross posting, everyone who reads these forums reads all of them, there is no need to post your thread in multiple places
3) use spell check. even though this forum doesn't have a spell check function gmail has one, word has one, and there are many others out there, spellcheck your messages
4) If you find a solution to a problem you posted about, post it at the end of that thread. You are not the only one who reads these forums and someone else will come along who has the same problem.
5) Try to keep Bugs in the bug section, tools in the tools section, ect.. if you don't know where your question goes it probably goes in the "Getting started" section.
6) be as specific as possible
7) know how to ask questions catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
8) Search before asking, no one will bother to answer your question if its the first result on the search list
**WARNING**
I'm not the authority on ANYTHING but after a few days of people posting there question in multiple places and bumping it daily it became CLEAR to me that this post was needed.
Also any statment i make that is all inclusive is not 100% accurate, i can't guarantee what EVERYONE does
**WARNING**
#3
07/20/2006 (2:40 am)
While this maybe a good idea to have, you have placed it in the TSE private forums, possibly the forums with the least amount of people accessing it. Also, as it is a forum topic, unless people keep posting in here it will not be seen by new comers as it will get knocked out of the most recent forum threads box on the community page.
#4
"its" = "it's"
Also "statment" = "statement"... What happened to the spell check? :-)
07/20/2006 (5:04 am)
"posting there" = "posting their" for future reference"its" = "it's"
Also "statment" = "statement"... What happened to the spell check? :-)
#5
I disagree. I only read four: getting started/engine [for both tge & tse]. Then whatever stuff searching comes up with.
07/20/2006 (6:57 am)
Quote:2) No cross posting, everyone who reads these forums reads all of them, there is no need to post your thread in multiple places
I disagree. I only read four: getting started/engine [for both tge & tse]. Then whatever stuff searching comes up with.
#6
#3 : I'm a frenchy guy... So using spell checking is for me :)... But I don't want to use them. Perhaps I need them. But most of time it seems people who reads these threads understand me.. So.. :) . If you notice, some spelling errors (or grammar errors), please notice me. May be I could teach you some french :).
#4 : Totally agree. A resume of the fix at the end of the thread is also very nice. Some threads have solutions, but scattered.
07/20/2006 (12:09 pm)
This thread is funny :)#3 : I'm a frenchy guy... So using spell checking is for me :)... But I don't want to use them. Perhaps I need them. But most of time it seems people who reads these threads understand me.. So.. :) . If you notice, some spelling errors (or grammar errors), please notice me. May be I could teach you some french :).
#4 : Totally agree. A resume of the fix at the end of the thread is also very nice. Some threads have solutions, but scattered.
#8
07/20/2006 (12:44 pm)
Is this only applicable to forums involving TSE licensees?
#9
07/26/2006 (3:27 am)
9) Be patient! No one ever gonne be as perfect as you are. Learn to live with that :-)
#10
This is not true.
>> bumping it daily it became CLEAR to me that this post was needed.
those forums are moderated. Let moderators impose the rules, thank you .
07/26/2006 (7:05 am)
>> No cross posting, everyone who reads these forums reads all of themThis is not true.
>> bumping it daily it became CLEAR to me that this post was needed.
those forums are moderated. Let moderators impose the rules, thank you .
#11
Paul's just trying to help to alleviate some folks getting frustrated from breaking the unwritten rules of the forum netiquette. They already exist... for some of us, they are pretty natural and we were able to predict them pretty quickly after joining. For others, they're not obvious so having them listed really helps out.
You, on the other hand, are just trying to stir things up... if we had moderation like a certain other popular website, what you just posted would've been labelled "flamebait" or "troll."
07/26/2006 (11:14 am)
Dan - Hrm... mind linking to the moderator's post of forum netiquette, then?Paul's just trying to help to alleviate some folks getting frustrated from breaking the unwritten rules of the forum netiquette. They already exist... for some of us, they are pretty natural and we were able to predict them pretty quickly after joining. For others, they're not obvious so having them listed really helps out.
You, on the other hand, are just trying to stir things up... if we had moderation like a certain other popular website, what you just posted would've been labelled "flamebait" or "troll."
#12
Yes I understand that. But is not for him to do this. As I said, those are moderated forums.
07/26/2006 (2:18 pm)
>> Paul's just trying to help to alleviate some folks getting frustrated from breaking the unwritten rules of theYes I understand that. But is not for him to do this. As I said, those are moderated forums.
#13
Or would you just rather have new users get upset because nobody has taken the time to try and help them to understand these rules?
07/26/2006 (3:03 pm)
Funny, the moderators didn't create these unwritten rules, they evolved out of the community itself... also, would you mind actually providing the link to where the moderators provide this? I sure can't find it anywhere. If they're going to actually provide this information, great... but if they're not going to, then somebody needs to because it's causing a lot of seriously bad feelings amongst new users on a regular basis.Or would you just rather have new users get upset because nobody has taken the time to try and help them to understand these rules?
#14
07/26/2006 (3:07 pm)
He's a troll Cliff. You're wasting your time.
#15
07/26/2006 (3:12 pm)
Yeah, I regretted that response after I'd already submitted it. I'm done, thanks, Stefan.
#16
I would also like to present these two arguments against your statement
1) if these forums are moderated
and
2) silence implies consent [a premise that you may not agree with, but has been considered true for over 2000 years "Qui tacet consentit"]
then it logically follows that
3) garage games approves of this thread
or alternatively
1) if these forums are moderated
and
2) my post stepped on the toes of the moderators
then it logically follows that
3) they will speak up / remove it /something
but
4) the garage games moderators do not speak up / remove it / do anything
therefore
5) either the forums are not moderated or this thread doesn't step on toes
was i a bit presumptions to make this thread, yes. did i take liberties i probably shouldn't have when i add "if your new read" probably, do i still think it was necessary yes. The irony is if you don't like it, and post in it saying you don't like it, you make it survive longer at the top and more people see it. If anyone reads it and as a result posts the answer to a question that they earlier asked and then figured out the answer to on there own then the thread was worth it to. (When i started w/ TGE the WORST part of working with it was finding 30 different threads for a problem and none of them having the solution only having "oh i got it never mind" at the end. If we could set a standard to post solutions at the end of your problems now in 3 years we'll all be much happier with ourselves and new people to TSE will have less of a hard time)
07/27/2006 (8:15 am)
It took me a while to respond because i don't want this thread to turn into a flame thread. So i probably wont respond to any future posts but i will be reading them.I would also like to present these two arguments against your statement
1) if these forums are moderated
and
2) silence implies consent [a premise that you may not agree with, but has been considered true for over 2000 years "Qui tacet consentit"]
then it logically follows that
3) garage games approves of this thread
or alternatively
1) if these forums are moderated
and
2) my post stepped on the toes of the moderators
then it logically follows that
3) they will speak up / remove it /something
but
4) the garage games moderators do not speak up / remove it / do anything
therefore
5) either the forums are not moderated or this thread doesn't step on toes
was i a bit presumptions to make this thread, yes. did i take liberties i probably shouldn't have when i add "if your new read" probably, do i still think it was necessary yes. The irony is if you don't like it, and post in it saying you don't like it, you make it survive longer at the top and more people see it. If anyone reads it and as a result posts the answer to a question that they earlier asked and then figured out the answer to on there own then the thread was worth it to. (When i started w/ TGE the WORST part of working with it was finding 30 different threads for a problem and none of them having the solution only having "oh i got it never mind" at the end. If we could set a standard to post solutions at the end of your problems now in 3 years we'll all be much happier with ourselves and new people to TSE will have less of a hard time)
#17
07/30/2006 (6:38 pm)
I think your preemptive strike on a forum etiquette flame war (#1) was a stroke of genius... or am I being too presumptuous in my summation? 
Torque Owner Juan Aramburu