Sony PS3 in trouble?

#21 Yeah, they know that. There is no way it'll sell for that much. Max of 500. I'd be amazed to see it that high.

#22 I think they plan on eating some of the costs. They do a "plus sale" .. adding on software and hardware to cushion the blow.

You see this sales tactic with X360 now in the bundle. The bundle is not designed so YOU get a deal. It's designed to eat some of the costs with a 50 cent burnt DVD by a 15 year old kid in Indonesia. LOL..

:)

#23 There weren't many PS2 games I wanted, but there were a couple that I *really* had to play on my friends PS2.

Also, There a blu-ray set top recorders coming out in the next 6-18 months I beleive.

#24 Blu ray = Beta. Sony never wants to go with open standards. They didn't want CD's DVD's VHS' Compact Flash etc.. Blu Ray is just another example of a long tradition of wanting to charge your more and have less interop between components you own. They want to lock you into Sony with specific hardware instead of you being able to buy media that moves around with different brands.

#25 Totally agree with you Randy.

#26 I don't see any benefit of HD-DVD ofer Blu-Ray.
Blu-Ray can hold so much more data and support more layers, and are made partially out of recycled paper.
HD-DVD is ZIP-disc, nice for portability, but a huge waste of money and resources. HD movies are also goign to have insane encryption ,you need a hardware decoder built into the monitor to veiw them at full-res.

But give it a year or two, all drives will be multi-format compatible and no-one will have known anything ever happened.

HDV is going to be a better standard when it comes out of research, according to Wikipedia it has a transfer rate of a gig a second and a max capacity of 3.9TB.

#27 If ps3 comes with the ability to run as a real computer... count me as sold. that's all i have to say about that and the extremely dissapointing news that xbox 360 would not run as a computer.

#28 I just wanted to toss in my 2 cents here, as i have been following all the Consoles for many years.

Blue-Ray to me is better then HD-DVD becuase HD-DVD is just another hacked up version of DVD.
Where bluy ray has Much more potential. For starters blue ray can stream (record) as fast as it comes in live. HD-DVD can not.
Blue ray will eventualy be 400 gigs a disk. HDDVD wont come close
thats enough on the blue ray HDDVD..
Now the ps3.. will come out for 500 US..
Current Blue ray Players are 800-1000.
So why would i buy a Blue Ray player for 1000 when i can get a PS3 For 500.
I'm not a console gamer mind you.... so its a win win for me.

Sony for the win.

#29 Just remember that Sony BetaMax was better than VHS. Really depends on consumer adoption.

#30 You mean it depends on the Porn industry.. that was what Set VHS apart from beta.

#31 Why would you buy a Blu-Ray player at all?

#32 I think most people are still happy with DVD, and most don't have HDTV either. There was a huge demand for a new format when DVD came out. I really doubt many have any reason to get excited about another CD like format.

Reviews of the first films to come out were less than stellar, with noticeable artifacts in most of them, and minimal improvement in overall image quality, except in the sound. We only just got DVD, which became mainstream about 5/6 years ago.

Within the next couple of years some truly next gen development may turn up and make both formats seem obselete before they even got of the ground.

Only people I see picking this stuff up right away are the techno nerdy types, or those wealthy enough to spend a couple of K on a NEW TV. The way I see it, SONY is just trying to force a new format on us, like all the others they tried and mostly failed in the last decade. The difference being that they are using the PS3 and its huge success as a platform to launch it with. Afterall, they are almost guaranteed to sell millions of PS3's regardless of whether people buy the videos or not. Forcing it on the market and hoping the success of the PS3 reflects on the video sales too.

They tried it with the PSP already, with those UMD's that many studios started to drop already.

#33 But ... but... but... 8-Track is AWESOME. So much better than cassette tape. Just you wait - 8-track is the wave of the future.

#34 Anyone heard of the Holographic Versatile Disc? More disc space than your entire porn collection could fill!

#35 Can I get an 'Amen!' ?

#36 Well Pat, there are several reasons why i would buy one. but not for what you think.
1) current blue ray players are $1000 US at best buy. if i can get a blue ray player for 500 and have a gaming console at the same time.... win win for me.
2) I have high def Tv's and Honestly i can not watch Crappy old style tv anymore. SO I need to have movies in high def

I hope that answers your "Why would you buy one question"...
I definatly am not going to buy one on day one.. I will wait and let them sort teh bugs out...
I'm a PC gamer, not a console gamer but I do Like High Def and once you have it you cant go back.
Simular to the reasoning of 300 buad modem, vrs 14,4, vrs 28.8, vrs dsl, vrs cable ,vrs Piped T3 into your house. etc.etc.
anyhow..
They will be 50 bucks sooner or later.

#37 BTW a lot of reviews of recent BluRay discs say the quality has been poor with noticeable artifacts in the video compression. And there really aren't that many HDTV's out there yet, less than 20 million have been sold so far, and 11% of homes that do have them have more than one.

Still pretty small numbers at this time. No Doubt things will improve a lot in the next couple of years. I don't actualy have TV anymore, we canceled through boredom when 9/11 happened and never went back to having TV again. We do have a regular TV for playing games and watching video's though.

One reason I didn't get a 360 was that I didn't see the point in getting one without the HDTV, and I can't justify spending that much for something I'd only really use to play games and the rare occasion that someone actually makes a film thats worth watching. which happens about 2-3 times a year.

#38 Im late in this conversation but Im wondering...

1) Arnt games to big in the first place?
2) Whos going to sit through 500 gigs of data and cut scenes? Whos going to pay to make that content?
3) Arnt all these console games created on a p.c in the first place?
4) Wont Playstation ultimatley fail because Microsoft is setting up a large infrastructure
by giving away dev tools such as Visual Studio 2005 for free and allowing indie developers
in on the big game market?

-Surge

#39 TOO BIG?? That's all a matter of opinion, besides, they can be short but still use that space, having more different enemy model types, more variety in the environment. If a developer were to simply not reuse ANY assets among their levels, they would have a LOT of art and sound. Don't worry, there is no such thing as too much space. Bill Gates was once quoted as saying 'why would anyone EVER need more than 64kb of memory' more or less. He was VERY wrong in thinking that. I'm sure in 10 years we're going to wonder how we ever got along with an 80 GB hard drive.... i'm already wondering how long i'm going to be able to go on with only that much on my laptop.... textures take up a LOT of space you see, I'll probably get a detachable hard-drive soon.

@ Adrian, you got BORED at watching the 9/11 events??

#40 Now they are saying PS3 games might be over $60... Under $99, but could be over $60.

www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151823

And on the topic of Blue Ray vs HD DVD... this review says that HD DVD has the better quality picture right now.

www.dvdtown.com/article/toshibavs.samsung-hd-dvdvs.blu/3595/

I went to Sears Grand and saw an HD DVD player playing on a plasma.. it looked so damn amazing.. if I had 5 bills, I woulda bought it then and there. I dont think they carried the $1000 Blue Ray player...