The internet may split?
by David Tiernan · in Technical Issues · 10/13/2005 (2:30 pm) · 35 replies
I just got done reading a article last week about how countries in europe want control of the internet ICANN system or shared control. Today I read a article that some countries in eurpoe said they may need to split the internet if the US does not give in allowing other countries to support the backbone.
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,16559,1589967,00.html
I thought this was big enough news to share as it is something that would affect the community since we have quite a few users in europe.
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,16559,1589967,00.html
I thought this was big enough news to share as it is something that would affect the community since we have quite a few users in europe.
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#2
10/13/2005 (3:29 pm)
I wonder if Al Gore will get his internet back as part of this?
#3
Makes perfect sense to me. I believe the old saying is "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
10/13/2005 (3:29 pm)
Isn't this more a case of other contries simply saying that the internet is multinational and should no longer be in the hands of one country. Makes perfect sense to me. I believe the old saying is "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
#4
It doesn't really matter, it won't happen. The corporate push is against a move like this, not towards it.
Europe can have their own internet. It will be small, cold, slow, and prefer Liver Pie over cheescake.
10/13/2005 (3:36 pm)
Pfft, Why can't people accept that they don't have to control everything?It doesn't really matter, it won't happen. The corporate push is against a move like this, not towards it.
Europe can have their own internet. It will be small, cold, slow, and prefer Liver Pie over cheescake.
#5
However I feel the US did design and has maintained the net since it was created and there has never been any attack which was able to fully drop the internet itself so we know they are doing a decent job (I know at one time 8 of the 12 root servers were taken offline but that was as close as they got) so major attacks have been thwarted by the administration at hand.
hehe makes me think of the battle for the stargate on stargate sg1
10/13/2005 (3:42 pm)
Actually the bandwidth in Europe is quite a bit better than here I have read of 10 meg connections as standard in some area's. This however would cause a global impact with VoIP amongst other major issues. These are the kinds of words that could concivebly start some type of actual war and needs to really be taken seriously.However I feel the US did design and has maintained the net since it was created and there has never been any attack which was able to fully drop the internet itself so we know they are doing a decent job (I know at one time 8 of the 12 root servers were taken offline but that was as close as they got) so major attacks have been thwarted by the administration at hand.
hehe makes me think of the battle for the stargate on stargate sg1
#6
10/13/2005 (3:43 pm)
Why would they split it? Does that mean they won't get American services and websites anymore? And vice versa?
#8
10/13/2005 (4:16 pm)
Yeah but isn't there an internet 1 and internet2? I've read about that somewhere
#9
I run just under ten Mbps, and If I wanted to drop a little more, could supposedly get 12 Mbps... and I live in Idaho!!
A lot of europe still has monthly bandwidth allotments as well.
I love stargate :)
10/13/2005 (4:26 pm)
Quote:Actually the bandwidth in Europe is quite a bit better than here I have read of 10 meg connections as standard in some area's. This however would cause a global impact with VoIP amongst other major issues. These are the kinds of words that could concivebly start some type of actual war and needs to really be taken seriously.
I run just under ten Mbps, and If I wanted to drop a little more, could supposedly get 12 Mbps... and I live in Idaho!!
A lot of europe still has monthly bandwidth allotments as well.
I love stargate :)
#10
the internet does not equal connectivity... heck, i'll love wimax when it comes in (and google as our ISP overlord)
10/13/2005 (5:18 pm)
Well fyi, i live less than 2 miles from microsoft's main campus, and 1/2 mile from a large shopping mall, and i cant get DSL. (only 2 years ago did i get the option for cable modem)the internet does not equal connectivity... heck, i'll love wimax when it comes in (and google as our ISP overlord)
#11
10/13/2005 (8:29 pm)
I live in Alberta Canada, had Cable since long time ago. 10 mbps here. Although when we first got it, it was 3 mbps. I so want Verizon Broadband wireless internet, they cost like what $70.00 USD for unlimited access DSL speed? In Canada the cheapest I could find was Fido for $42.00 USD and it was barely 56kbps. The fastest broadband wireless down here in Canada that I could find was Bell/Telus/Rogers at $90.00 USD for slow DSL Speed, not nearly as fast as Verizon.
#12
10/16/2005 (12:22 pm)
Internet2 is a current test of technology between several universities where they test new protocols and such thath may make it to the net. Consider it a very very large network lab.
#14
07/28/2006 (4:31 pm)
The internet is a way for the US intelligence, and military to decentralize their information. It is a military system first and foremost that is why they will not let other countries provide parts of the backbone. If they don't like it then they can make their own system. Why would the US give up any control of a system designed to protect itself?
#15
07/28/2006 (6:09 pm)
How do you people find these threads?
#16
07/28/2006 (6:16 pm)
Hey Frank, do you want some ice for that bump on your head?
#17
dont get thier own country code. untill the ameicans place democracy on them..
rofl.
obviously the system had a starting point and now it is out of date.
it will change.
who knows when where how what and all that great stuff.
I look forward to it.
I dont think this statement could be any more accurate.
07/28/2006 (6:38 pm)
The funniest part, is that the countries that usa dont like.dont get thier own country code. untill the ameicans place democracy on them..
rofl.
obviously the system had a starting point and now it is out of date.
it will change.
who knows when where how what and all that great stuff.
I look forward to it.
Quote:Isn't this more a case of other contries simply saying that the internet is multinational and should no longer be in the hands of one country.
Makes perfect sense to me. I believe the old saying is "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
I dont think this statement could be any more accurate.
#18
from this article from thursday, july 27, we have this recent news:
07/28/2006 (8:01 pm)
Sort of getting back to the OP,from this article from thursday, july 27, we have this recent news:
Quote:Having been the internet's instigator and, since 1998, its voluntary taskmaster, the US government finally agreed to transition its control over not-for-profit internet overseeing organisation ICANN, making the organisation a more international body.
#19
and timely too!
now we just have to create a better dynamic scenario for this and we are really ready to move forward.
07/28/2006 (8:37 pm)
And indeed what a great start for change.and timely too!
Quote:the US official in charge of such matters, also made clear that the US was still determined to keep control of the net's root zone file - at least in the medium-term
now we just have to create a better dynamic scenario for this and we are really ready to move forward.
#20
07/28/2006 (8:54 pm)
If a war is started over this, we shouldnt send US Marines. We should send the nerds.
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