any official decision to completely change(not improve) this site?
by Ahsan Muzaheed · in Site Feedback · 08/16/2012 (11:53 pm) · 10 replies
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" it is something GG needs to fix. "->" is simply "->" and " is simply "."
this type of comment is now common.this problem is very much annoying when u are spending your valuable time to help other people for free.
spamming and this annoying character problem is enough to prevent u from commenting.
why not gg buy any of this vbulletin product.https://www.vbulletin.com/
it seems all the world using that type of forum templates(or whatever u call it).
and GG still on hand coded site !!!!!!!!!!!!
is there any official decision in consideration to completely change(not improvement) this site?
at least do some visit on other game engine's forum(for example: unity) ans see what they are using.
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#2
And no one should ever use the Unity forums as an example. They're worse than these ones (and that's saying a lot). It's an example of rolling your own forums the wrong way. Unfortunately, they're in the same boat as we are in terms of trying to merge into a new, stable and supported commercial forum package.
VBulletin and Invision Powered forums, however, are quite nice, well supported options.
08/17/2012 (10:35 am)
As Scott notes, it would require some major refactoring. The easiest way to do it would be to archive the existing forums and start anew. Otherwise it would require an extremely messy merge that would most likely break in a hundred unexpected ways.And no one should ever use the Unity forums as an example. They're worse than these ones (and that's saying a lot). It's an example of rolling your own forums the wrong way. Unfortunately, they're in the same boat as we are in terms of trying to merge into a new, stable and supported commercial forum package.
VBulletin and Invision Powered forums, however, are quite nice, well supported options.
#3
I can certainly understand your dilemma. It would be a huge blow to the community to lose the wealth of resources in the current forums.
For what it is worth I am a good problem solver and if you wanted some extra eyes to look over what you are up against I would be happy too. I really want to see this community grow and one thing holding it back is the website. I have some background in PHP, MySQL, Javascript, Python, and various CM packages. So I understand how to get around a website. I am also good at picking things apart and fixing things. Like stuff that eludes other programmers. If nothing else I will be able to say, "Yeah, that is really bad...". ;) I will guarantee I have seen worse code.
08/17/2012 (10:48 pm)
Is it a database issue? I mean is it an issue where you have data in the database in one format and it is a pain in the butt to move to another format?I can certainly understand your dilemma. It would be a huge blow to the community to lose the wealth of resources in the current forums.
For what it is worth I am a good problem solver and if you wanted some extra eyes to look over what you are up against I would be happy too. I really want to see this community grow and one thing holding it back is the website. I have some background in PHP, MySQL, Javascript, Python, and various CM packages. So I understand how to get around a website. I am also good at picking things apart and fixing things. Like stuff that eludes other programmers. If nothing else I will be able to say, "Yeah, that is really bad...". ;) I will guarantee I have seen worse code.
#4
Make a resource, preview it, post it ---- SCREWED!
Make a resource, post it, realise you have a typo, edit it ---- SCREWED!
08/18/2012 (10:05 am)
This is getting ridiculous.Make a resource, preview it, post it ---- SCREWED!
Make a resource, post it, realise you have a typo, edit it ---- SCREWED!
#5
Again I will reiterate. I will provide another set of eyes for the existing website for FREE. The worst it can do is I will say I cannot help fix it. However, there is a good chance I will spot something another set of eyes missed because that is the nature of code. What is complicated to one person is often simple to another person.
I know, I know, posting on a weekend does not generally reach people working during the week...thanks for listening anyway. Guy, I could throw up Wordpress (I have a copy here demolishun.net) and allow people to sign in only on a sign up thread through GG private forums. That would allow people I allow to put resources there. Would that help?
08/18/2012 (2:17 pm)
I may start putting resources in files or my own website and just post links. That would be a temporary solution. I know it is not as secure as a the private forums, but you can get the private forums from Google cache anyway. So there is no real code exposure security to begin with.Again I will reiterate. I will provide another set of eyes for the existing website for FREE. The worst it can do is I will say I cannot help fix it. However, there is a good chance I will spot something another set of eyes missed because that is the nature of code. What is complicated to one person is often simple to another person.
I know, I know, posting on a weekend does not generally reach people working during the week...thanks for listening anyway. Guy, I could throw up Wordpress (I have a copy here demolishun.net) and allow people to sign in only on a sign up thread through GG private forums. That would allow people I allow to put resources there. Would that help?
#6
08/18/2012 (6:50 pm)
Backslash issue has existed since forever(ish), but the whole & thing is relatively new (few months).
#8
I'm not sure if locating resources off site is the way to go, this stuff really belongs together in one place. It's frustrating coming across a resource which had stuff located remotely for which the links are now dead.
I think the & nonsense is a relatively new problem. It's not possible now to preview a post then submit it without the forum code corrupting your work.
I would have thought this pretty trivial to fix. I assume that this is part of some protection against SQL injection attacks, so these characters are being encoded when stored in the database. It looks like someone forgot that they also need to be decoded when retrieved for editing.
08/19/2012 (12:12 am)
@Frank, like yourself, I usually prepare stuff in a text editor then copy that when posting. I forgot this time, and suffered badly for it.I'm not sure if locating resources off site is the way to go, this stuff really belongs together in one place. It's frustrating coming across a resource which had stuff located remotely for which the links are now dead.
I think the & nonsense is a relatively new problem. It's not possible now to preview a post then submit it without the forum code corrupting your work.
I would have thought this pretty trivial to fix. I assume that this is part of some protection against SQL injection attacks, so these characters are being encoded when stored in the database. It looks like someone forgot that they also need to be decoded when retrieved for editing.
#9
@Frank
I'll see about your offer. I'm not sure exactly what we would need to do to make it happen since we have a lot of business data in the codebase. That has been problematic in the past when people have offered to look over the site to help fix issues.
But I did log the bug as GGC-1376.
08/20/2012 (10:43 am)
I have learned that nothing is trivial with this site. We haven't made any changes to the posting code in a long, long time, so another change in a seemingly unrelated area is most likely the cause. Which makes it a very finicky bug to track.@Frank
I'll see about your offer. I'm not sure exactly what we would need to do to make it happen since we have a lot of business data in the codebase. That has been problematic in the past when people have offered to look over the site to help fix issues.
But I did log the bug as GGC-1376.
#10
08/20/2012 (7:29 pm)
probably the best solution is use a 3rd party WYSIWYG tool that can integrate into the existing code base and sort out formatting issues, however nothing is that simple when placing the data into a mysql? database, as it can cause issues with strip slashes, special characters. Maybe an editor that compensates for this.
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