Can't Save: Constructor 1.0.3 Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
by Benjamin Schneider · in Constructor · 11/07/2007 (3:02 pm) · 25 replies
With a fresh install of Constructor 1.0.3 on Leopard, Constructor crashes when trying to save the scene.
Steps to reproduce:
Launch Constructor
Select "Build Cube" primitive tool
Create cube.
Select "Save" or "Save As..." from the File Menu
give scene a name (I used test.csx)
Press save button.
Crash - no file is saved.
I tried this with .map format as well with the same result.
Continued with crash log contents...
Steps to reproduce:
Launch Constructor
Select "Build Cube" primitive tool
Create cube.
Select "Save" or "Save As..." from the File Menu
give scene a name (I used test.csx)
Press save button.
Crash - no file is saved.
I tried this with .map format as well with the same result.
Continued with crash log contents...
#2
11/17/2007 (1:59 pm)
Me too, but I reported it in the general forum section instead, my bad... 8-/
#3
11/18/2007 (9:35 am)
More details: this is happening for any save dialog (including exporting to .dif).
#4
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Can anybody help?
Thanks!
11/30/2007 (12:39 pm)
Same problem with version 1.0.3 on Leopard:Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Can anybody help?
Thanks!
#5
12/08/2007 (10:54 am)
Definitely a bug. Anyone got a fix or do I roll back to 10.4 ...
#6
12/08/2007 (10:59 am)
No fix so far. :( 
#7
1) from the Finder, duplicate and rename an existing .CSX
2) run Constructor and open that file.
3) select and delete everything.
4) make new stuff.
5) just do a Save, NOT a Save As, Export, or anything else.
as long as you just load and save a preexisting file, Constructor shouldn't crash.
(i do notice that when quitting, there is a long pause, but as long as it doesn't crash i can live with it :)
12/11/2007 (10:00 pm)
Here is a little trick i just discovered that will let you work on things until a real fix comes out.1) from the Finder, duplicate and rename an existing .CSX
2) run Constructor and open that file.
3) select and delete everything.
4) make new stuff.
5) just do a Save, NOT a Save As, Export, or anything else.
as long as you just load and save a preexisting file, Constructor shouldn't crash.
(i do notice that when quitting, there is a long pause, but as long as it doesn't crash i can live with it :)
#8
12/12/2007 (9:21 am)
I'm not sure I understand this. Are you saying there is a way to use a .csx file in game, I thought it had to be exported to be used in a mission. The problem is not with editing existing Constructor objects, I can open and save existing ones and don't get a crash, the problem is how to get them into a game level if they cannot be exported from the constructor format to a game format. 
#9
12/21/2007 (5:23 pm)
Is there a fix yet?
#10
12/23/2007 (8:09 pm)
Perhaps if we keep bumping, we'll eventually get a response.
#11
12/31/2007 (7:39 pm)
Bump. 
#12
01/02/2008 (1:41 pm)
I don't have a mac, but if I can figure out how to virtualize OSX in a VM, then maybe I can take a look at this. If so, would someone be willing to provide tech support for me to get the compilers up and running?
#13
Seriously though, I am working around this problem by running Windows XP under Parallels on an Intel iMac and using the Windows version of Constructor to do the final export to DIF. So long as I don't try to edit the project under Parallels, and just do the export, the performance is not too bad.
I did also find that trying to save a new Constructor project crashes just like a DIF export so I need to do this:
1. Duplicate existing Constructor files
2. Rename and open the duplicate
3. Select everything and delete it
4. Create the new interior and save it
5. Launch Parallels
6. Launch Constructor for Windows
7. Open the file
8. Export it
A MAJOR pain in the rump but it all does work and I did already have the Parallels software.
I did also raise an official bug with GG, but I see they still have not responded here - sigh.
01/02/2008 (2:07 pm)
If you can virtualise OS X on a PC we should set up a business to sell that technology and forget about writing games ;-)Seriously though, I am working around this problem by running Windows XP under Parallels on an Intel iMac and using the Windows version of Constructor to do the final export to DIF. So long as I don't try to edit the project under Parallels, and just do the export, the performance is not too bad.
I did also find that trying to save a new Constructor project crashes just like a DIF export so I need to do this:
1. Duplicate existing Constructor files
2. Rename and open the duplicate
3. Select everything and delete it
4. Create the new interior and save it
5. Launch Parallels
6. Launch Constructor for Windows
7. Open the file
8. Export it
A MAJOR pain in the rump but it all does work and I did already have the Parallels software.
I did also raise an official bug with GG, but I see they still have not responded here - sigh.
#14
You should give it a free 30 days try.
01/02/2008 (2:14 pm)
@Robert: hadn't you read my post in the main section for Constructor? I mentionned I was running it fairly smoothly in CrossOver from CodeWeaver.You should give it a free 30 days try.
#15
Still, After checking out the cost of OSX, I don't think I want to fork out that much for something I won't use myself. Maybe if someone has a loaner Mac I can debug this for them. Otherwise, maybe official channels would work better.
01/02/2008 (2:25 pm)
@Robert - I'd seen some posts about people running OSX under VmWare, so I'd thought to give it a try. I'm wasn't really looking to run torque (or constructor, really), but just get it to the point where I could debug the code and see why it was getting an error, and then compile it for someone else to test. Still, After checking out the cost of OSX, I don't think I want to fork out that much for something I won't use myself. Maybe if someone has a loaner Mac I can debug this for them. Otherwise, maybe official channels would work better.
#16
01/19/2008 (11:40 am)
@Jaimi - Did I miss something? Did GG release Constructor's source code? If so, I could fix it myself. If not, just consider this a bump.
#17
01/19/2008 (12:07 pm)
@Benjamin - No, the source code is not released, sorry. I do have the source code under NDA, and would be willing to fix this if I but had access to a Mac.
#18
01/19/2008 (12:15 pm)
Or, how about GG just fix the dang bug instead of making everyone buy emulation software? 
Torque Owner Benjamin Schneider
Path: /Developer/Applications/Constructor/Constructor.app/Contents/MacOS/Constructor
Identifier: com.garagegames.constructor
Version: �2007 Garage Games.com, Inc. (1.0.2)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [148]
Date/Time: 2007-11-07 17:58:03.193 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5 (9A581)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
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