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Hidden quirks?

by Robert Boyachek · in General Discussion · 05/06/2007 (6:34 am) · 8 replies

I have just recently joined GG and was wodnering, after I purchase something from this site (ex. Torque Game Engine Advanced) am I bound to anything? Or am I able to just make my game without having to answer to anyone when it's finished?

Can someone put me in the right direction so that i don't end up in a place i don't wanna be?

Thanks for reading!
Robert

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#1
05/06/2007 (6:38 am)
Quote:am I bound to anything?
well your bound to ask questions :p

as long as you don't steal art from other peoples games, you don't have to answer to anyone.

Your free to do anything you want with "your" game (apart from giving the engine source code away)
and are free to use any publisher you wish.

For more info, read the TGE EULA
or TGEA EULA

Joseph
#2
05/06/2007 (6:39 am)
After more surfing the site I think I found my answer... i'm required to show the logo at the start of the game if it is an indie license? Please confirm me on this as I want to make sure.

Robert
#3
05/06/2007 (6:41 am)
If you buy the Indie License of the engine yes, you have to show the logo.

If you buy the Commercial License, you don't have to.
#4
05/06/2007 (6:49 am)
Ah ok, thanks for helping me Joseph, im liking this atmosphere already.

Just to make one more thing clear the use of the kits that are provided on this site, what is required of those? Am i able to use those as i wish? I read in that link that "(c) Licensee may not: (i) create any derivative works of the Engine, including but not limited to translations, localizations, starter kits, technology add-ons, or game making software other than Games;" this just means that i can not make starter kits of the engine itself, nothing to do with the actual starter kits that they have for sale on this site correct?

Sorry for all the questions, i just dont want to end up in a bind like i said befor.

Robert
#5
05/06/2007 (7:00 am)
As long as you make games with the engine, show the GG splash screen for 4 seconds and don't make more than 250,000 USD (IIRC), you should be fine. There are no royalties for using the engine. And you can make as many games as you want with one license of the engine.

The indie license doesn't permit you to make 'non-game' products with the engines. That means no educational products or 'serious games' like professional simulations for the military or industry use. The Mars rover simulation done by Valador for NASA is one example of a serious game, but there are many others as well. This applies to tools as well, so if you wanted to re-write TGE as a 3D word processor, you would need a commercial license.

I've heard that conflicting statements about the legality creating machinima (sp) with the engine, but that's probably not an issue for you.

Commercial licensees can do all of those things however. And they are allowed to do Torque contract coding as well. They(we) are also allowed to make as much money as we want with the Torque engine.

And, of course, none of the licensing options allows you to modify the source code and release a similar, but different game engine to compete with Garage Games products. That should be obvious, but it sometimes isn't for some reason.

Carefully reading through the EULA should give you even more insight into what you can and cannot do with the engine.
#6
05/06/2007 (7:04 am)
Thanks Aaron, that put me at ease, it would probably be better to go with the comercial license so that i wont have to worry about those. Though my game wont be p2p i see no need in doing that. What would be recomended for my case? as it seems they both do the same thing the only thing thats different is the licensing correct?

Robert
#7
06/02/2008 (9:31 pm)
Yeah, but also consider that putting the GG logo at the beginning of the game makes you look more professional because you have affiliates.

Very rarely do you see a game that only one company contributed to. Usually several splash screens come up at the beginning of games.
#8
06/03/2008 (6:09 am)
Actually, with the current EULA you have to display the GG logo regardless of the type of license you have. Also, the current Commercial EULA does not allow for non-game products, you have to get a special license from GG for that now.

edit:
Just realized how old this thread is.