Modern Weapons Pack HELP
by Mark Junior · in General Discussion · 12/26/2006 (3:20 am) · 18 replies
Merry Xmas everybody!
I was just thinking of buying the modern weapons pack but ive heard ( or i just think ) that the weapons pack comes only with the Animation script files. Does it also come with the gun scripts ...? as in the scripts that script how the weapons shoot, ETC. the particles etc etc.
I was just thinking of buying the modern weapons pack but ive heard ( or i just think ) that the weapons pack comes only with the Animation script files. Does it also come with the gun scripts ...? as in the scripts that script how the weapons shoot, ETC. the particles etc etc.
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#2
GG won't host a pack to sell here if it's something half baked.
12/27/2006 (8:39 pm)
It will have everything you need...GG won't host a pack to sell here if it's something half baked.
#3
SCRIPTS
* Each weapon comes with its ANIMATION script already written; There are no scripts that provide weapon functionality. This is an ART PACK.
so i guess Randy you are wrong?
12/28/2006 (4:09 am)
Uh oh..., i just looked at the product page again and noticed:SCRIPTS
* Each weapon comes with its ANIMATION script already written; There are no scripts that provide weapon functionality. This is an ART PACK.
so i guess Randy you are wrong?
#4
Thx,
Edit: P.S. oh and read this
http://tdn.garagegames.com/wiki/DTS/Scripting/Guide
Best Wishes
Vash,
12/28/2006 (7:24 am)
After you buy it and test it following the directions then report back.Thx,
Edit: P.S. oh and read this
http://tdn.garagegames.com/wiki/DTS/Scripting/Guide
Best Wishes
Vash,
#5
12/28/2006 (7:33 am)
Hello, Vashner, i think you didnt understand. I said im thinking of buying the weaponspack but if it doesnt have the gun scripts I will not buy it get it? so i don't want to go buy it first if it doesn't have the scripts. Cause im not really Sure if it does or not...
#6
Best Wishes,
Vash
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12/28/2006 (8:06 am)
The pack works with torque. GG is not trying to scam you relax. Please read the DTS documentation so you understand better. The weapons packs are excellent learning tools and well worth the money.Best Wishes,
Vash
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Those parts where he turns to the camera and says "America., such and such"..
This is one of those moments..
#7
It would have been better if they merged the animations into the dts's though. Hasn't anyone grabbed the Tribes 2 SDK? Wealth of info for model makers in that. www.advancedmod.com/Tribes2/Tribes2SDK-Models.zip
12/28/2006 (9:23 am)
It doesn't take a whole lot of work to throw together some scripts for the weapons. But I understand you wanting something that pretty much just drops into stock TGE with just some exe calls. In fact they could write it as a mod and then you wouldn't even need that.It would have been better if they merged the animations into the dts's though. Hasn't anyone grabbed the Tribes 2 SDK? Wealth of info for model makers in that. www.advancedmod.com/Tribes2/Tribes2SDK-Models.zip
#8
Noooo how about the TDN that I linked... omg..
You want to make torque games or tribes 2?
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12/28/2006 (10:13 am)
Tribes 2 sdk? Noooo how about the TDN that I linked... omg..
You want to make torque games or tribes 2?
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#9
12/28/2006 (10:35 am)
Many artists do not have access to TDN nor should they need to spend the $150 to get this kind of information imo. What does using the SDK for information purposes have to do with what kind of game your making??? I fail to see the link.
#10
12/28/2006 (11:53 am)
The weapon pack is not worth the money if you have to do scripts. That what buying a pack for is to learn. If you dont have the entire script than it is waste of time and money. I am hoping Games Extract put weapon pack out. They always do a outstanding job plus they use base.skinname and the full scripts to drop right in Torque. The skeleton pack is outstanding to again you get all the scripts.
#11
And if your a digital artist and your hanging around here it's mostly because you want to sell or work on indy project so you should really buy showtool and or Torque. Yes the $150 is worth it. Buying a copy of TGE supports GG and staff. You think they eat and pay bills with air?
I think $150 is too cheap.
12/28/2006 (11:55 am)
Saska owns TGE so has access to the documentation. The Tribes 2 documents while might be interesting reading should be no pushed over more current stuff. And if your a digital artist and your hanging around here it's mostly because you want to sell or work on indy project so you should really buy showtool and or Torque. Yes the $150 is worth it. Buying a copy of TGE supports GG and staff. You think they eat and pay bills with air?
I think $150 is too cheap.
#12
It is not my responsibility to supply the GG staff with paid bills and food, that's their problem. I don't mean to sound like an Scrooge over here, really. But that's reality.
12/28/2006 (12:32 pm)
I should have been more clear, I am not suggesting Saska use the SDK I am suggesting Exis Interactive or any modeler take a look at it.It is not my responsibility to supply the GG staff with paid bills and food, that's their problem. I don't mean to sound like an Scrooge over here, really. But that's reality.
#13
12/28/2006 (3:19 pm)
This is why Superman put Zod into the Fortress of Solitude...
#14
12/29/2006 (7:43 am)
Ahem... I viewed the docs. It sais it comes with the anims and the .cs file scripts, as in the .cs files that declare all the anims... NOT the weapon scripts where it programs what particles etc. the weapon uses.
#15
Quote:
The pack has so much source data that you can learn everything you need to make your own weapons!
this is a direct qoute from the product page. Now show me where the weapon.cs script is, becuase this is needed to fire the weapon. Im not nocking this product as a whole, the animations and the rest are completely flawless and complete. Why not go the whole mile. maybe have a person sit down and make some sample .cs firing scripts for the more complicated weapons. my biggest thing is the Vulcan cannon, becuase i know for a fact. That a crossbow script included in the FPS isnt going to cut it.
12/29/2006 (9:25 am)
I have tried to ask them for this, Trying to explain that yes, i agree the models and animation are awesome, but seeing a Minigun fire like a crossbow, really really isnt the way youwant to see your models. The firing rates need to be defined, and i know that the particles are different, even the sounds. though sounds i can expect not to find, as just being able to fire the weapon as a whole would be a solid pack. the other packs come with complete scripts, and the medieval weapons pack is also good, but it state it doesnt include all the items and is just art. Quote:
The pack has so much source data that you can learn everything you need to make your own weapons!
this is a direct qoute from the product page. Now show me where the weapon.cs script is, becuase this is needed to fire the weapon. Im not nocking this product as a whole, the animations and the rest are completely flawless and complete. Why not go the whole mile. maybe have a person sit down and make some sample .cs firing scripts for the more complicated weapons. my biggest thing is the Vulcan cannon, becuase i know for a fact. That a crossbow script included in the FPS isnt going to cut it.
#16
12/29/2006 (10:10 am)
If they give me free pack then I will do the research and do the cs script for them. But I am not going to buy the pack and do the script when there is other packs that have them.
#17
12/29/2006 (10:58 am)
Ditto Fucifer, any content pack authors wish to trade the content for scripts I'm game.
#18
12/29/2006 (3:57 pm)
That what I dont understand there alot outstanding members would have done the scripts for free pack. If it was my pack and I didnot have time or know how do them I would have give free pack to get someone do the scripts for me instead put out just an art pack. I think it would have increase the sales.
Torque Owner Fucifer
Each weapon comes with its script already written; so you get the .cs files defining all animations.
Now I am just a member, I dont work for GG but read this to me the cs script file only contain the animations.