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by Anthony Rosenbaum · in General Discussion · 05/16/2002 (11:47 am) · 36 replies

I know that this isn't starwars.com but I just got back from the movie and I thought it was GREAT. So if you saw it tell us (me) what you thought of it. Now I must wait 3 more years for the final act.
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#21
05/17/2002 (1:18 am)
I liked the film a lot.

(Omroth puts 2 cents into the "Star Wars 2 Thread" machine.)
#22
05/17/2002 (4:52 am)
Ya know, I'd like to see Episode 2, just cause of the digital characters (Yes, I loved Jar Jar, I found listinig Jake Lloyd (Anakin From Ep1) 10x more annoying than anything Jar Jar could do) And Natalie Portman. But I'd have to agree, George has never been adept to finding actors who could act, or writing good dialogue. (Sorry Harrison Ford couldn't act in Star Wars ep 4-6 Indiana Jones Rockd HARD!! though) But since I find myself to be opisite of the crowd, With ep1 being my favorite SW movie and all, and wishing death upon the wookies and ewoks, I'd have to say, I'll probably love episode 2.
#23
05/17/2002 (1:49 pm)
I dunno a lot of people said spiderman is the movie to watch. But since I've seen neither, I'll quickly leave before getting poked by a buncho' hollow plastic sticks... er.. I mean lightsabers. :-)
#24
05/18/2002 (9:00 am)
I saw Episode II at midnight on opening night as well. The movie is really, really good! The dialogue was a bit cheezy for about ten minutes in the opening scene, but other than that I thought it portrayed a lot of emotion and such.

I hated Pearl Harbor more than any other movie I've seen, but trust me on this: Episode II is not REMOTELY anything like PH. That movie was cheezy throughout, but episode II molds right into the other Star Wars movies and is very well done, in my opinion.


Let me put it this way: I wasn't a Star Wars fan before this movie. Well, I just went out and bought Jedi Knight II for the sole reason that I am now a huge Star Wars fan.

Great movie, great story, great acting (at least better than all the other ones). Go see it now!

P.S. Don't believe the critics. They also gave Gladiator bad reviews, as well as Lord of the Rings (even though I didn't like that movie too much, it wasn't as bad as they made it out to be).

Oh, and some of them gave PH good reviews. So much for them.
#25
05/18/2002 (1:48 pm)
I don't really like Star Wars.
Because everybody love star wars. And why they love star wars ? None wasn't able to tell me.
It won't love something because all the world love it. I have seen episode 1, I hated it. I didn't liked the first trilogy even if I'm a sci-fi fan.
Maybe it's because star wars has a crappy universe.
Yes, Warhammer 40K universe rulez !
#26
05/18/2002 (2:42 pm)
Hmm why ???? I grew up with it i loved it ever since i saw "A New Hope". I don't know why, i guess it was because it was very recognisable and had a whole lot of symbolism in it that could be projected on every day live but with a twist. There is also the special effects that where progressive for that time.

I personaly think that the original trilogy was very easy to get hooked on in those day's especialy kids. Because of the great amount of toy's that where released it just didn't stop with the movies and the whole galaxy just grew on you. Later on there where books and games and all that stuff it just expanded and expanded becomming a true stand alone (made up) world (galaxy).

I'm not dressing up for any movies or anything but star wars, for me, goes a little further than just "liking it" it has been part of my childhood and i have spent many, many day's in that galaxy far, far away you don't just give that up.

I must say i was a little disapointed when i saw TPM but AOTC surly got me back into it. When i saw it the other day it brought me back to that day when i was watching ANH for the very first time, again i was 7 years old sitting on the ground at my uncles just looking at the screen. That's why i like Star Wars, sorry can't help it
#27
05/18/2002 (3:27 pm)
I like Star Wars because I like Star Wars. What does 'why' have to do with it ? What's your favourite colour ? Why ?
#28
05/18/2002 (3:55 pm)
The Empire Strikes back is still my favorite. I like 4, 5 and 6 better than 1 and 2.
#29
05/18/2002 (4:31 pm)
EP 1 & 2 relies too much on the CGI. (I haven't seen 2 yet, its an assumption based on the trailer and the reviews etc.)

I'm sure if Lucas had no body to tell his ideas are stupid, the entire movie would be set in front of a blue/green screen. Reduce the number of actors and replace them with CG animation. Every sentence would start with "But master/apprentice" and everyone will "have a bad feeling about this."
#30
05/19/2002 (10:20 pm)
I saw the film last night.

No, I didn't pay for tickets. My friend won four tickets off some radio contest, and I can safely say... thank god I didn't pay for the tickets.

I never saw Episode one, since all I saw from the previews was one decent sword duel (with that Maul guy) and some racer pods flying around.

Nothing in it looked even remotely interesting (just a way to explain episode 4-6), and the reviews (aside from the internet "star warz 0wnz" sites and "loser" press like Newsweek or USA today) all said it was very, very bad. Some even as far as saying it was one of the worst films ever made.

Now based on that, I think I can safely say Episode 2 wasn't as bad as episode 1. I think I can also say that Episode two was not worth my time. Edit out the first hour and a half and bring back the less digital locations like we saw in the original three, and that might have been neat to see.

ONLY thing worth seeing was Yoda beat people up, and that wasn't even worth the calories I used up watching that film.

So to sum it up.

If you are a Star Wars fan, you'll like it. Why? Anything Star Wars will get your business. Lucas could be brushing his teeth and taking a shower and I'm sure if he called it "Star Wars: Hygene Wars" it'd net over 50mil the first weekend.

If you are a person who likes mindless action films, make sure you are out playing some video game in the arcade in all parts except the city chase and the final battle.

If you are a person who likes good films, then skip it all together. If you need a Star Wars fix, go rent the first three.


Musal: I gotta agree with you there. Putting so much emphasis on CGI means bluescreen. Bluescreen means too much emphasis on what isn't there for the actors to see. If the actors can't see it, they can't feel it. If the can't feel it, already lifeless lines will not be able to be saved by even amazing actors.
#31
05/19/2002 (11:52 pm)
Why does everyone knock use of CGI in a movie. That's why I want to see it. I'm beginning to like Star Wars, not due to the movies, but due to the concept. It's a Sci-Fi Fantasy crosover. It has all the benifits ofr a futuristic/alien socioty, with Fnatasy elements. Like Knights fighting with swords, magic (The Force). Also the detail of the universe. You can find a book that tells you what Padme's outfit is made of.

IMHO CG is good. Makes things that don't exsist, exsist. And without looking cheesy. I mean, Ep2 has these tall aliens(Now my most favorite species ever). They are VERY skinny and stand about 12 feet tall. No puppet could do that. And The film is still filmed in remote areas. The point of a movie, at least for me, is to take myself out of reality. The farther the better. CGI has the power to do that. Though it's odd that game developers are knocking using computer graphics to entertain....

To much CG in video games. Like sports games. They need more real people. Like instead of playing the game, they should put the games down and go outside and play sports. And instead of playing FPS, go out, buy a gun.... wait... Um, Too far... (Don't get me started on the moral depravity that is GTA3(I just don't get it))
#32
05/27/2002 (11:23 am)
CG in movies just doesn't look real yet IMHO. I was sad to see Yoda go CG, that is until the end :D I'd love to see a puppet do that !!! Yoda kickz azz lol

but just like Spiderman, Episode II suffers from bad editing and too much fluff. I would have hacked-out about 20 mins of slow footage from both Spiderman and Attack of the Clones.

going after EVERY demographic is just plain lame, esp. in an action movie. Lucas is meddling in mediocrity.
#33
05/28/2002 (1:04 pm)
I have never been so bored in a movie before :(
Episode 2 was worse than watching a game of atari pong!

-Ron
#34
05/28/2002 (2:18 pm)
I've thought more about this horrid medicore writing/editing... and I'm beginning to think Lucas is catering to the DVD market, as people seem to watch "chapters" now instead of movies... just fast forward thru the "bad" parts when there are no females in the room ;)

and I've heard somewhere (maybe here) that the movie dialog was made overly simplistic to make it easier to translate for foreign markets, sigh..

and as for C3PO, the voice is wrong, the one-liners are all wrong, and hearing him call the future Darth Vader "Master Annie" almost made me puke.

at any rate, Lucas is washed-up and his commercialized movies barely even tell a story anymore. back-writing the prequel plots also allowed for far too many cheezy moments that I would have been happy to have gone without...

but I'd still say it's worth watching, if nothing else for the Jedi fight scenes at the end.
#35
05/28/2002 (3:03 pm)
I'm hooked on Star Wars, but mainly because it came out when I was a kid. When I viewed #4 on video some years after the release of #6, I was amazed at the lame dialogue and the weak acting. I still forgive it, though, because it has the feeling of a fable to me. I have no trouble with the plots, but it seems like the writing is getting worse. As I watch the "making of SW" documentaries, I get the distinct feeling that GL fails where he does because no one can tell him something he creates isn't really very good.

One major problem I have with the whole notion of the prequels is that GL is explaining too much. I'm much less fascinated by Yoda now than I was before-- I like meeting characters like Yoda, Boba Fett, even Darth Vader, without knowing too much of their history and thus filled with wonder and desire to know more. I think that JRR Tolkien did the same thing with Silmarillion (haven't read much of it, too boring for me) where he explains all these things about Middle Earth that I was much happier simply wondering about (e.g, who is Tom Bombadil?). I have the same feeling about JK Rowling who is going to over-explain who all these characters are in the Harry Potter series. What's-his-name Herbert who wrote the Dune series (Dune was a great read-- too much was fleshed-out and explained in the other books, though I enjoyed them, too). In short, mystery can far more interesting and spell-binding to me than detailed knowledge about certain characters or forces of imagined nature (other examples-- seeing the shark in "Jaws", seeing the spider creature in Stephen King's "It", Dune prequels).

Too long. Oh well.

Nick
#36
05/28/2002 (3:22 pm)
I enjoyed it. I didn't expect a terribly deep plot (expectation met) or good dialogue (expectation met). I expected a good ride with interesting visuals (expectation met). While I knew Yoda was going to fight with a light saber, what I didn't expect was that it would be like a cat fight on amphetamines. I had a good time -- my 13 year old daughter and I are going to see it again this weekend.

If you want good writing, look for a well done drama or comedy. This is action, and action is almost always plot-thin. These days people expect a lot from a movie. Me? I like the Three Stooges, and relatively speaking, Star Wars is dee-eep stuff.

On a side note, I think it is related somehow to the plot-less-ness of FPS games. Probably Hollywood has the same problem game designers do - how do you insert good plot without subjugating the item the fans come for (action)? Answer: you do the best you can to make the action serve to further the plot and ignore those who trash your vision... I guess.

Just my 1/50th...
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