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Milkshape???

by Roto · in General Discussion · 05/21/2006 (4:20 am) · 6 replies

Is Milkshape used just to make characters or can I use it to make interiors as well? I need to buy a modeling tool to use with Torque and the new book refers to MilkShape. The cost is silly, only $25. The other modeler I looked at was sick expensive and was too powerful for my needs.


So, Can I survive off of Milkshape? Especially, (if I ever learn enough to make my own game) since I intend on buying most of the art, but will need someting to make simple stuff like small shacks, crates, maybe a few large interiors, large but basic, simple rectangular halls and what not.
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Torque Owner Tim Heldna
#1
05/21/2006 (5:28 am)
Generic building structures (interiors) are best done with diffs. There are a few reasons for this, the most important being collision.

There are several map editors that can be used for this, some free & some cost money. Quark and Hammer would be the two most popular free editors.

Here's a listing of the most commonly used map editors:

Quark

Hammer

3D GameStudio WED

Cartography Shop

3D World Studio

Torque Constructor

Quark
- Free to download and use
- Poor interface and quirky behaviour

Hammer
- Free to download and use
- Nice interface & easy to use

3D Game Studio Wed
- $49
- Nice to use and creates a diff friendly map file

Cartography Shop
- $64.99
- Nice to use & easy to learn

3D World Studio
- $79.95
- Nicer to use & easier to learn

Torque Constructor
- $65
- Not yet available

Dif files are stored (with their textures) in the data/interiors folder. You can drop them into your game with the mission editor (F11).

You can download map2diff here

All other objects such as player, weapons, crates, trees etc can be made using milkshape. So yes, you can survive off of Milkshape - many people here do. You should download the dtsplus exporter for milkshape though, it's very good. The native dts exporter that comes with milkshape is weak in comparison.

dtsplus exporter

Associate Ian Omroth Hardingham
Mode 7 Games
#2
05/21/2006 (5:38 am)
Oh great, I can just hear the "Hammer isn't legal for TGE use" fanboys getting ready to completely take over this thread.

Roto and Tim: there are some legality issues with using Hammer for a commercial TGE project, but in my not-even-slightly humble opinion it's the least of your worries. Read down for ten people loudly disagreeing with me.

Ian

Torque Owner Tim Heldna
#3
05/21/2006 (5:47 am)
I agree Ian - I know it's best to be safe than sorry but seriously ; )

I like Hammer. I'm using it and it IS legal to use. Though I respect the opinions of people who wish to be cautious.

Torque Owner Dan -
#4
05/21/2006 (6:35 am)
For a long talk about the EULA on hammer see this thread as well as GG responses.

Torque Owner Roto
#5
05/21/2006 (12:49 pm)
Tim,

I have WED (Game Studio was the first engine I studied) and am pretty good with it. How can I turn a WED file into a dif?

Torque Owner Tim Heldna
#6
05/21/2006 (10:05 pm)
Save your world in WED as a map file. Then run map2diff, check my original post above for the link. It's a cmd line app so you will have to run it in a dos window.