Buying TSE

#1 Nope, once you own TGE you own it for ever, Legally you cant sell it or give it away(im about 99% sure of this...) Check the EULA and, to own TSE right now, you need to have TGE to get the early adapter verson...I think...

#2 Currently you must own TGE to have a TSE license.

If you have an indie license, it is NON-TRANSFERABLE. Cannot be sold, cannot be rented, cannot be given away. It is yours, not anyone elses. Commercial licenses are per-seat, though some restrictions still apply.

#3 I checked out TSE and it's getting a bit dated. I'm concerned that the milestones will be achieved after DX9 is useful anymore. Any plans for the TSE team to just drop in DX10 instead?

Also, what if I wrote a game using TSE now and (for arguments sake) wanted to release it before TSE was complete - I wouldn't be able to ship a complete product right? I would have to shelve it until TSE was final yes? No?

#4 Andy,

We've already shipped a few games using TSE as a base, "Marble Blast Ultra" on Xbox 360. ThinkTanks, Marble Blast and Orbz on the Xbox. Plus Valador is using TSE for its simulations for NASA. There are a bunch of products that are finishing up with TSE before it is complete.

Not sure what you mean by "TSE is getting a bit dated." If you can flesh that out a bit, maybe I can answer your question better.

#5 You can ship a TSE game without TSE being out of early adopter.

#6 @Benjamin - I'm just saying that there are many games out now with DX9 effects, shaders etc. However, DX9 games have been out for a while now, and with that recent Farcry DX10 update, I think TSE probably needs to expand to DX10 functionality as well. I don't know... having never used TSE and only looking at the demos, and seeing a few post on the various milestones, I'm probably not the best judge.

I think it's a valid concern though, to make sure Torque keeps up to date with new technology.

#7 The new structure of TSE should allow it to be upgraded a lot easier as the rendering layer is abstracted away from the core of the engine. Going from DX9 and OpenGL to DX10 would probably not be hard. I suppose it depends on how far a jump DX10 is ... I know it is quite different but I would imagine that DX9 will be useful for quite some time considering that the Xbox 360 is actually DX9 based.

#8 Well from my experience of using DX5 all the way up to DX9, Microsoft has a habit of completely changing their interfaces, so a refactor/rewrite of the core graphic interfaces is required every time the version changes to take advantage of the new features.