Visual studio express products released.. and free

#1 It requires service pack two right? Service pack two hates my computer... won't install.

#2 Looks like it'll be free until 11/6/06, if you download it after that you have to pay for it.

#3 Well, considering that it's a year from now, I think this is ample warning :)

#4 Don't you have to be an MSDN subscriber to get this?

#5 Doesn't look like it.

#6 msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx

That is the correct url to get all of the Visual Studio Express editions.

#7 Can anyone whos downloaded the C++ Express edition shed any light on how easy it was to get Torque up and running?

i.e. Were the solution / project files compatible, or at least only minor changes to get working?

#8 Wooot!!
Hehe tomorow ill be at the VS 2005 release party in Detroit.
* In-depth technical education sessions and direct contact with development and database experts
* Attend structured training or hang out in the community area to get your specific questions answered
* Meet the Microsoft Visual Studio and SQL Server development teams for informal Q&A
* Network with like-minded professional developers and database administrators
* Hear about innovative products, solutions, and services from key Microsoft partners
* Walk away with complimentary versions of Visual Studio 2005 and SQL Server 2005

So ill wait till tommorow to see if i need to d/l this.

#9 Super freakin sweet... free editor for t2d.net, i dont have to get it working with sharp develop or anything for a while :)

saves me some time.. feel bad for sharp develop though.

#10 It isn't the easiest thing to get Toque compiling with Visual Studio Express but it *is* doable:

www.garagegames.com/index.php?sec=mg&mod=resource&page=view&qid=5957

I made sure some changes made it into TGE 1.4 that will help to make this even easier.

#11 Cheers Matt. I am keen to try it out in the future, but my current set up works fine for me, so I might just bide my time a little.

#12 I've read the FAQ about it being free, but it is not exactly clear to me. Quoting from:

msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/faq/default.aspx#pricing

"If you acquire Visual Studio Express products within the one-year promotional period, you will enjoy the rights granted in the applicable license at no cost for the term of that license."

By saying "for the term of that license" does that mean the software license has an expiration? Will the software (or the license) expire and shut down after Nov. 6, 2006?

#13 Chris,

You won't need to download it; Microsoft is giving away away the "Standard" edition of VS 2005 at the release parties; it has everything the "Express" editions have, plus the full MSDN library. I'll be there at the RenCen tomorrow, with Compuware.

#14 They give away the Standard editions at the party? Does it cost to get in pr require invitations, because maybe I can crash it and snag some freebies. I live about 30 mins away from Detroit.

#15 Does the express version have the optimized compiler?

#16 Midhir,
Yes, it has an optimizing compiler.

Jeffrey,
It's free, but the Detroit event is filled, and closed for registration.
See: msevents.microsoft.com/cui/eventdetail.aspx?culture=en-US&eventid=1032281368

#17 Ah crap, I wish I knew ahead of time. Oh well, I have two job interviews tomorrow anyways.

I guess that me not knowing about it shows how much attention I pay to Microsoft, as I am more of a GCC person anyways (and my latest installed version of a VS product is VC++ 6, from 1998). Yet I'll probably check out the express version of VS 2005 to get on the whole .net bandwagon that most of these new programming jobs are requiring these days.

#18 New fangled technologies blah, who needs them!
Ok sarcasm over with.
I just downloaded this a little bit ago onto my one windows machine.
Looks like a sweet IDE though.
Thats coming from probably the most Anti-M$ guy here ;)
Give it a shot.

#19

Quote:Thats coming from probably the most Anti-M$ guy here ;)

Only judging by just a few words, I can tell we have a lot in common. I can probably battle you for that title, too. ;)

I was never a believer in .net because their idea of cross-platform is running on Win2K, WinXP, and Win2K3...WOW! All three of them!! (sarcastic grin) IMO, if you're going to make an architecture to interpret semi-compiled code (msil) in which the OS requires, you may as well do it like Sun did with Java and actually make the interpreters/VM's for operating systems outside of your own. I see .net as a big middle finger to MacOS and the dozens of Unices such as Linux, BSD, etc.

Before all the .net enthusiasts get at my throat, I also do have nice things to say about it. Like how it's a great way to unify different programming languages on one platform, and have developers with skills in different programming languages easily work together in the same environment. I also like the integration of HTML into the forms, which seems to be really in style for GUI design these days.

I really hate to say it, but I guess I have to put aside my pride if I don't want to fall far behind in my programming career. In other words I'll give it a shot.

#20 Hehe, i just got back from the launch party in Detroit.
Lots of software and prizes were given out. IPac, IPods, mem sticks, HP 5MP camera, future xbox 360's, xbox.

I walked away with a USB mem stick and a full copy of Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition, SQL Server 2005 Standard and BizTalk Dev Edition.