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DNS is misconfigured for domain garagegames.com

by Alex Rice · in Site Feedback · 07/03/2005 (8:25 pm) · 7 replies

IE on Win Xp cannot resolve the URL "garagegames.com" (goes to MSN search page), or http://garagegames.com (DNS error). Because there is a missing A record IP address for the hostname garagegames.com

Firefox on Win XP , interestingly, just guesses at www.garagegames.com hostname, I guess. But if you look at the DNS output, it definitely needs fixing:

alexr@cyclone:~$ host www.garagegames.com
www.garagegames.com has address 216.116.32.49
alexr@cyclone:~$ host garagegames.com
(empty)
alexr@cyclone:~$

This should return an IP address but does not

alexr@cyclone:~$ dig garagegames.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> garagegames.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17120
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;garagegames.com.               IN      A

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 65.19.175.2#53(65.19.175.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jul  3 20:16:14 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 33

This is correct:

alexr@cyclone:~$ dig www.garagegames.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.garagegames.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17475
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.garagegames.com.           IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.garagegames.com.    20962   IN      A       216.116.32.49

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 65.19.175.2#53(65.19.175.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jul  3 20:16:23 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 53

You should have an A record with IP address on your domain, like this:

alexr@cyclone:~$ dig mindlube.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> mindlube.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16158
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mindlube.com.                  IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
mindlube.com.           85764   IN      A       64.62.230.231

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 65.19.175.2#53(65.19.175.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Jul  3 20:16:29 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 46

I used to work for an ISP and a web hosting company and have administered BIND servers. It's been a few years, but let me know if you have any questions.

#1
07/03/2005 (9:22 pm)
Alex seems right, "garagegames.com" isnt resolving.

But I think he's being a little too technical. All you need to do is configure garagegames.com to redirect to www.garagegames.com, or something similar. (If you have to manually update your dns records, then great, but most people use gui wizards these days)
#2
07/03/2005 (9:28 pm)
The DNS isn't configured wrong. GarageGames.com is the main domain and there is not a host system there. There is a host system webserver at the host www.garagegames.com

It is a courtesy to have the main domain name resolve to www..com, not a requirement. For that matter I can have a domain that points to nothing but my mailserver and that to is perfectly valid.
#3
07/03/2005 (9:34 pm)
@labrat- Technically you are correct of course. Many old school sysadmins frown upon directing the A record of the domain to their websever. However if you look any any professional web hosting outfit there will be an A record setup in DNS so you can just type in my-domain.com and get to the website. It is a courtesy to future visitors of your site so they don't have to REMEMBER to finger in www. Interestingly Firefox seems to have an error handler that just inserts the www for ya, although it does not display on the address field.

@Jason- A redirect is not going to do anything, because garagegames.com hostname is not resolving in the first place.
#4
07/04/2005 (12:14 am)
IE has an lazy handler (just like firefox does) type in garagegames and then click GO, no www. or .com it will take you to the www.garagegames.com site.

It seems that firefox's handler is a bit more advance though.

As a web admin, I expect return visitors to my site to either 1. Remember the URL they used the first time... and or 2. Bookmark the site if they plan to come back
#5
07/04/2005 (12:56 am)
People will get confused when they type in http://garagegames.com and get a host not found error message. Look at it from a marketing & convenience perspective instead of i-am-sysadmin-i-do-however-i-please perspective.
#6
07/04/2005 (1:08 am)
I had this same debate with my boss who owned an ISP, in about '96. He didn't want to setup the DNS this way for all the websites he was hosting for his customers. I advised him he should. He eventually changed his mind, not because of me, but because all his customers complained that their website didn't come up when they typed in their-domain.com

It's really obvious when you think about it from a usability perspective.

The only reason my boss didn't want to do it, I guess, is because it was not the old school Unix sysadmin way. Or somehing. Now it's standard- I think all pro web hosting providers setup DNS this way.
#7
07/05/2005 (10:25 pm)
Yep. a lot of us nerd types forget that most the users out there are idiots when it comes to computers (just like i am an idiot when it comes to cars)

when i think of garagegames.com, i dont think of "WWW."garagegames.com ... it's just that i am savvy enough to realize that if it doesnt resolve without the www. that i should try with.

marketeers away!