Maya software
by Adam "Serpentius" Vener · in Artist Corner · 06/29/2005 (12:25 pm) · 18 replies
Greetings Garagegames community!
The Company I'm working for currently has a large quantity of Maya software, and no use for it.
The Director of the Company asked me to see if anyone out there on a budget might benefit from purchasing this from us at a reasonable fee.
I've have pics I can provide, but not knowing the Maya software very well, It's hard for me to tell you EXACTLY what we have.
I'm definately aware we have versions 1.5, 2, 3, 4 and 5.5 but not sure what else. There's also some version 9 of some items that came with it, several of them as a matter of fact.
There is also a TON of books!
If you want the pics so you can see what I'm talking about, let me know and message me/email me, or reply here if you might be interested and I'll email you pics of all the stuff.
Regards,
-Serp
The Company I'm working for currently has a large quantity of Maya software, and no use for it.
The Director of the Company asked me to see if anyone out there on a budget might benefit from purchasing this from us at a reasonable fee.
I've have pics I can provide, but not knowing the Maya software very well, It's hard for me to tell you EXACTLY what we have.
I'm definately aware we have versions 1.5, 2, 3, 4 and 5.5 but not sure what else. There's also some version 9 of some items that came with it, several of them as a matter of fact.
There is also a TON of books!
If you want the pics so you can see what I'm talking about, let me know and message me/email me, or reply here if you might be interested and I'll email you pics of all the stuff.
Regards,
-Serp
#2
The issue will be the licenses, I am not sure that they are transferable..
06/29/2005 (12:53 pm)
Alias PowerAnimator is the version 9...am I dating myself here?The issue will be the licenses, I am not sure that they are transferable..
#3
06/29/2005 (1:03 pm)
Licenses are transferrable with written consent from Alias. 
#4
Anyway, transfering the licences may be tricky. Contact alias before you sell anything to make sure it's doable.
Edit: Danny, are you sure? Even with old versions?
06/29/2005 (1:06 pm)
Wasn't poweranimator REALLY ehm, pricy in it's day (they may have taken down the cost in the later version though, I can't remember)? =)Anyway, transfering the licences may be tricky. Contact alias before you sell anything to make sure it's doable.
Edit: Danny, are you sure? Even with old versions?
#5
We purchased the books and software through a surplus buy of equipment and software, and had no idea it was in there.
So technically, we're not really aware of any licensing issues or anything. I mean, we own the software and books legally, and dont have any need for it. We're not going to give it away for free or throw it away, so what can be done?
Sorry, Im not too familiar with Maya or Alias at all, but I appreciate everyone's advice.
Regards,
-Serp
P.S. It is the PowerAnimator 9 that we have, thanks for that.
06/30/2005 (9:42 am)
Well, we aren't the original purchasers, so I'm not sure that is a problem.We purchased the books and software through a surplus buy of equipment and software, and had no idea it was in there.
So technically, we're not really aware of any licensing issues or anything. I mean, we own the software and books legally, and dont have any need for it. We're not going to give it away for free or throw it away, so what can be done?
Sorry, Im not too familiar with Maya or Alias at all, but I appreciate everyone's advice.
Regards,
-Serp
P.S. It is the PowerAnimator 9 that we have, thanks for that.
#6
06/30/2005 (9:44 am)
If they haven't been opened and registered, then you may have issues legally reselling them outside of being an authorized reseller. But I have no idea.
#7
Go to www.alias.com/glb/eng/support/customer_service/index.jsp for contact information.
06/30/2005 (9:52 am)
Just contact alias and ask, that's the only way to make sure.Go to www.alias.com/glb/eng/support/customer_service/index.jsp for contact information.
#8
"we're not the original owner, we bought it from the original end-user, and we are not selling the license or a right to use, we're selling the books and software"
That should answer everyone's questions.
oh and btw - we do have the hardware dongle that comes with it.
Cheers.
-Serp
06/30/2005 (9:57 am)
Well, I spoke with my boss before deciding to call Alias, and his response was:"we're not the original owner, we bought it from the original end-user, and we are not selling the license or a right to use, we're selling the books and software"
That should answer everyone's questions.
oh and btw - we do have the hardware dongle that comes with it.
Cheers.
-Serp
#9
Oh well.
06/30/2005 (10:10 am)
So.... basically. It would be pointless for anyone to buy it from you. Oh well.
#10
06/30/2005 (11:10 am)
So can you get a pic of the books you have or create a list that includes all the books you guys are selling.
#11
The books seem fine though.
06/30/2005 (11:48 am)
If you're selling the software but not transferring the licenses, then you are violating Maya's EULA and giving whoever is unlucky enough to pay for it no legal way of using the software. Not to mention, there would be no way to possibly upgrade the software to the latest versions since there is no license transfer.The books seem fine though.
#12
Doesn't matter. The EULA cannot prevent you from selling software that you *own.* That is if you bought the software (not leased, rented, or borrowed) the doctrine of first sale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_sale_doctrine) allows you to resell it. I imagine that allows anyone who bought it from you to use it legally. Provided the software is not copied or pirated, there is no copyright violation.
I don't believe that a companies EULA is allowed to take away your other legal rights.
You might find however that Alias will not support the software.
***INAL Disclaimer***
06/30/2005 (12:43 pm)
***INAL Disclaimer***Doesn't matter. The EULA cannot prevent you from selling software that you *own.* That is if you bought the software (not leased, rented, or borrowed) the doctrine of first sale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_sale_doctrine) allows you to resell it. I imagine that allows anyone who bought it from you to use it legally. Provided the software is not copied or pirated, there is no copyright violation.
I don't believe that a companies EULA is allowed to take away your other legal rights.
You might find however that Alias will not support the software.
***INAL Disclaimer***
#13
Doesn't matter. The EULA cannot prevent you from selling software that you *own.* That is if you bought the software (not leased, rented, or borrowed) the doctrine of first sale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_sale_doctrine) allows you to resell it. I imagine that allows anyone who bought it from you to use it legally. Provided the software is not copied or pirated, there is no copyright violation.
I don't believe that a companies EULA is allowed to take away your other legal rights.
You might find however that Alias will not support the software.
***INAL Disclaimer***
06/30/2005 (12:46 pm)
***INAL Disclaimer***Doesn't matter. The EULA cannot prevent you from selling software that you *own.* That is if you bought the software (not leased, rented, or borrowed) the doctrine of first sale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_sale_doctrine) allows you to resell it. I imagine that allows anyone who bought it from you to use it legally. Provided the software is not copied or pirated, there is no copyright violation.
I don't believe that a companies EULA is allowed to take away your other legal rights.
You might find however that Alias will not support the software.
***INAL Disclaimer***
#14
We're not trying to screw anyone here, we just have no use for the software or books and would like to make sure someone else can use it. Of course, we did pay some money for it, so we are the legal owner of the software. It was purchased from a now-defunct game developer.
In any case, if anyone is still interested after reading all of these posts, then email me.
06/30/2005 (12:58 pm)
Thanks, we've not copied the software, its all original with the books, and licenses, and dongle, and EULA, and boxes and etc that it originally came with.We're not trying to screw anyone here, we just have no use for the software or books and would like to make sure someone else can use it. Of course, we did pay some money for it, so we are the legal owner of the software. It was purchased from a now-defunct game developer.
In any case, if anyone is still interested after reading all of these posts, then email me.
#15
Although you can sell your physical media such as the books or CDs, the developer of the software will not allow you to transfer your liscense to a new owner simply because you want to. There are numerous reasons for doing this all of which can be explained to you by the liscensing department. Anyone who purchases said software and does not get a liscense trainsfer will not be able to register, authorize, get support or use it for upgrades. Sure it might install and you might get a cheap version of an expensive application, but what is it really worth to you?
If you think that this is stupid perhaps you should go and re-read your Torque liscense, you might be surprised about what you will learn if you didnt know already.
06/30/2005 (1:02 pm)
Problem is that you don't own the software when you are talking about something like Maya (or similar applications like it on the market), you are liscensing the right to use it and that liscense stays with the person or company for the rest of their existance. Normally a liscense can only be transfered if the individual dies, company goes bankrupt or similar circumstances, but iregardless of what happens permission must be given first.Although you can sell your physical media such as the books or CDs, the developer of the software will not allow you to transfer your liscense to a new owner simply because you want to. There are numerous reasons for doing this all of which can be explained to you by the liscensing department. Anyone who purchases said software and does not get a liscense trainsfer will not be able to register, authorize, get support or use it for upgrades. Sure it might install and you might get a cheap version of an expensive application, but what is it really worth to you?
If you think that this is stupid perhaps you should go and re-read your Torque liscense, you might be surprised about what you will learn if you didnt know already.
#16
We're not trying to screw anyone here, we just have no use for the software or books and would like to make sure someone else can use it. Of course, we did pay some money for it, so we are the legal owner of the software. It was purchased from a now-defunct game developer.
In any case, if anyone is still interested after reading all of these posts, then email me.
06/30/2005 (1:23 pm)
Thanks, we've not copied the software, its all original with the books, and licenses, and dongle, and EULA, and boxes and etc that it originally came with.We're not trying to screw anyone here, we just have no use for the software or books and would like to make sure someone else can use it. Of course, we did pay some money for it, so we are the legal owner of the software. It was purchased from a now-defunct game developer.
In any case, if anyone is still interested after reading all of these posts, then email me.
#17
I understand what you are saying, and I will contact Alias and figure more info out. Either way, the fact is the company that originally owned the software DID go out of business, so the software should be able to be utilized by someone.
I hear what you are saying though, we're a surplus company that sells used equipment usually, this was just a rare instance when we came accross some software and books not from our industry.
I'll publish more info once i have the details from Alias. I did find a license transfer form on their website, but the link they provide doesn't go to a form, it goes to instructions on what to do within the software, which of course, I haven't and have no plans to install.
Stay tuned, Ill contact them and get back to you all.
-Serp
06/30/2005 (1:30 pm)
Ummm, I'm not a developer, and I don't own a license to Torque. I do know Jeff, Rick, Mark, Tim and Jay, but I'm not really an expert on the licensing issues involved, and I didn't plan on bothering any of them on something that has nothing to do with Garagegames. I just knew that a lot of developers that might be interested in this would be hanging out on these forums. I understand what you are saying, and I will contact Alias and figure more info out. Either way, the fact is the company that originally owned the software DID go out of business, so the software should be able to be utilized by someone.
I hear what you are saying though, we're a surplus company that sells used equipment usually, this was just a rare instance when we came accross some software and books not from our industry.
I'll publish more info once i have the details from Alias. I did find a license transfer form on their website, but the link they provide doesn't go to a form, it goes to instructions on what to do within the software, which of course, I haven't and have no plans to install.
Stay tuned, Ill contact them and get back to you all.
-Serp
#18
06/30/2005 (2:10 pm)
Yeah. Alias contact is the best route. We can be armchair lawyers all day if we want, but it won't help you out. 
Jason Correia