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a question

by someone · in Torque Game Engine · 12/06/2001 (1:05 am) · 5 replies

it says in the agreement that gg has the rights for the games sequal and what not but what i want to know is what if i the game developer doesnt want to but still want to make games using the same engine, will gg respect that or will legal battles ensue?

#1
12/06/2001 (5:14 am)
A deal is a deal.

The agreement doesn't dictate what game you make. If you make a sequel they get to publish it, whether you use their engine or not - their option. If you don't want to make a sequel but make something different with the game engine they get that too, but they can't force you to make a sequel.

On a seperate note ...

If you buy the GG engine and make a game using it - you better expect to market it thru GarageGames. GG has already stated that they will be fairly lenient with organizations that are doing charitable work and people who want to use the engine to make and distribute free games, but don't be surprised at the appearance of a police officer and a lawyer with a cease and desist notice if you are silly enough to believe that you can buy a game engine that took thousands of dollars to develop and thousands of hours to develop and maintain and use it for your own game without giving them their fair share.

If you think you might want to go elsewhere with your game then don't use the engine.

Personnally, I don't see why anyone would want to go anywhere else - the hardest part of game development is getting a publisher to pay attention to you. Here we get to develop at our own pace, with a top notch engine backed by a development team we don't have to pay, and then they go ahead and publish it for us on their website, whether they think it is good or not. They provide guidance and suggestions, they help with our problems, they fix bugs that do not effect them, they put in features they don't need because we want them. They put your game up on their website where you get a chance to prove you did something and see how good it is.

Furthermore, if in their professional opinion, it's good enough, or it's generating so much feedback that it's obvious it is great, they can pass it up the chain for distribution by Sierra. And they will make good money from that too, so if they think they have something hot you better believe they will do it.

Frankly, all the people here looking down the horse's mouth is getting pretty tiresome. So, to all the GG guys who have to read about people wanting to get something for nothing and then use it to get rich without giving any credit or compensation I want to say, "We are not all like that. Most of us think you more than deserve the cut you are asking for, and we think that you are doing great work that is genuinely appreciated."

The preceding rant is only marginally directed at the poster above who actually asked a legitimate question. I just went off when I saw another person questioning the agreement. No personal attack intended. Just needed to get that said.
#2
12/06/2001 (5:50 am)
Well said. I thought that the publishing part of the Licence was the best part! as i was dreaming up my game, i couldnt figure out how i was going to get it published after i finished, and GG fits in juuuuust nicely. Thanks for the hard work guys, and keep up the great work!
Ryan
#3
12/06/2001 (11:20 pm)
i was just askin if a dev team makes a game and does everything right by the agreement but then wants to move onto another different game using the same engine will gg give the rights to the first game to another dev team to make a sequal even if the first original dev team does not wish to be a sequal to that game ever?
#4
12/07/2001 (5:07 am)
That's a very good question and i didn't completely get it from your original post. According to my initial reading GG could make a sequel if they wanted to - even if you didn't, and they could hand it to another development team if you didn't want to make it. However, since you would hold the copyright and trademark rights to the Name of the game they would probably still negotiate with you for the right to use those.

Frankly, I don't think they would try to make a sequel over the objections of the original team - the community is too small - it would be very bad for business.
#5
12/08/2001 (11:21 am)
Read the EULA. We do not have rights to sequels if you change the content of your game more than 50%. Our first EULA stated that we did, but we relaxed that part of the agreement.

I'll state it again. Reading the EULA is not fun, but it is in English, and it is not that hard to understand. Please read it over and do your best to understand it. This particular question is well answered and easy to understand.

Jeff Tunnell GG