Quake Map (GtkRadiant) support added to Map2Dif

#1 Does this mean we can use any quake editor that does plain Quake map format? If so, I LOVE YOU!!!! :)

/runs away to dust off his old BSP quake editor

#2 How does this work with Quake like curves ?

#3 The new -q option line says it supports Quake map file version 2 & 3. I assume curved surfaces are ignored. I haven't tried it, so I'm not sure how entities are handled, such as lights, portals, etc. Seems like we may be able to import some Quake maps with a little work.

Thank Mr. Bruck though, it's all his doing :)

#4 Does it work?????????

by the way, thanks Mr. Bruck

It's been a real honor to be in the company of a true professional.

You deserve a statue.

Scott

#5 So how exactly do you use this? -q 3 (for quake 3 map) or -q 1.1.1 (for version 1.1.1 of Gtkradient)?

#6 Better be ready to pay ID software a fee for using it. Else you face problems later down the line, and the ID law machine chews you up. Quark is a better tool anyway.

#7 I thought it was free to use as long as you didnt use any of their textures and didnt need to change any of the code.

#8 Thanks for the kudos :-)

Use -q 3 to handle the GtkRadiant map format.

It only handles polygonal brushes (no curved surfaces). I've tried setting up a Torque profile for point entities, but I got sidetracked trying to figure out doors and then Dark Age of Camelot came out...

I'll write up a short discussion of issues: point entity support, texture management (in and out of WD3s), and anything else I can come up with.

I'm not (yet) familiar with the GtkRadiant license restrictions, but at the very least do not use id maps or textures in your own games :-)

#9 Just read the EULA carefully :)It explicitly stated commercial use without an agreement with them was bad news.
I deleted the tools from my drive when we switched engines so I can not regurgitate the law speak.

#10 Actually GtkRadiant is an open source project. You can do whatever you like withit within the open source agreements.

The only thing you must not do is use id software copywritten maps or textures.

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#12 And you needed to include the full license... why?

#13 In the interest of not violating the GtkRadiant EULA, I will refrain from posting information about configuring GtkRadiant to work with Torque. I will try to get on the GtkRadiant development mailing list and see how the EULA interacts and might change with the GtkRadiant development goals of being open source and multi-game-aware (just id games? just id engine games?). I had forgotten (or missed) that TTimo moved from Loki to id.

I think the map2dif changes are not polluted because they are usable by other map editors that might generate Q3A-compatible files.

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