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TSE terrain: paging, etc. and when?

by Ryan Rogers · in Torque Game Engine Advanced · 02/05/2005 (11:41 am) · 4 replies

This is targeted mainly at Ben, but maybe somebody else will have the answers as well. Plus I think others in the community may want to know the answers as well...

- I read elsewhere in this group that TSE will not inherently support paged terrain. Is this still the case, or will paging now be supported?

- If paging is not supported, is the new terrain engine being designed with the possibility that somebody would want to modify it to do this? For example, the way the datasets are loaded and stored could be implemented in any number of ways, some conducive to adding paging terrain data in later and some not.

I am hoping that even if the engine does not support paging OOTB, it will not require exhaustive re-implementation in order to add it. I don't mind writing code; even lots of code; even lots of complex code; but I dont' want to have to "throw away" and rewrite lots of existing rendering code or significantly alter the data structures.

Also, what is the rough anticipated release date of the milestone / early adoper release version which has the new terrain engine in it? In one thread I read "by GDC"...is that still the plan? If so, are we talkin ga demo by GDC, or an actual Early Adopter release (EA2)?

Thanks in advance for answers to these...

- Rhino

#1
02/05/2005 (11:55 am)
As far as I am aware, Ben changed his design criteria to include massive terrain sizes out of the box for TSE (very wise choice in my opinion!). Rumor has it that it is working very well!

Again, simple community rumor here, but they are shooting for GDC still as a coordinated completion date for milestone 2 (which includes the massive terrain).

I have no details on the actual implementation method (streaming, tiling, or otherwise) used for the massive terrains, but Ben is writing it--so it's going to be good!

I also don't know if they mean an EA2, an update, or have any plans at all for actually releasing milestone 2 separately.
#2
02/05/2005 (12:26 pm)
The new TSE terrain blocks will be about 10X bigger than the TGE terrain, AFAIK.

Here's an old dev snapshot with some early TSE terrain.

Edit: TSE will support terrain paging OOTB.
#3
02/05/2005 (7:30 pm)
OK, that SO makes my day!

I am psyched...even if it's just a patch and not EA2 I can't wait to get my hands on this.

*pulls out CC*

- Rhino
#4
04/08/2005 (2:17 am)
Whoa, So 10x bigger tiles PLUS terrain tiling? That means like, miles and miles and miles of unique game terrain? :-)