A Deep Question...

#21 Filberto: someone needs to tell you
except: without
accept: take in.
better definitions are available.

#22 Thank you Quiter. And Filbert, let me tell you right now you are not going to change the way people think, no way. That only happens in Disney movies. This game will build itself. It CERTAINLY does not need your help, err, hindrance. That just about describes what you're being right now. Look at the post you dragged up! Geez, man, think before you post, you've been told that before. Now how about you shut up and play the game. It is a GAME, Filbert. GAME. GAME.

You hopefully have got it by now. I doubt it though.

Ben(SA)

#23 I was just going to write that ben. filbert, stop.

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#24

#25 HEY FP, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE PICTURES OF YOUR SISTER?


MWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

#26 @FP: Yes, you are.

@All & topic at hand:

I don't think it was in-game trash talk that drove the original post of this thread. It was more likely the personal attacks on other parts of these forums. Following every post by Filbert there tend to be 4 or 5 attacks against the post and the poster. The responses themselves are more frivolous than the post. Yet it seems to have grown into a sport. Who can dis Filbert the fastest. Regardless of what you think of censorship, swearing, porn, etc. Deliberately singling out one individual for constant personal mockery really is inappropriate. Especially when the individual has shown he isn't up for it.

Banter that goes both ways is one thing. Those who dish it out can probably take it. But intentionally bating a kid is just plain unnecessary. Know your audience before you post.


@Filbert: My email is in my profile if you'd like to chat off the forums.

-- 56k

#27 Anyone who kills me right as I'm in front of the goal with scrummy or flying onto a health powerup. Bastards.

Edit: And Filbert, when making assinine posts and doing stupid things like bringing the very last thread up to the front...

#28 Filbert, the very nature of the internet medium makes censorship impossible. It's a heated debate as to who should regulate its content.
History generally confirms that censorship laws are repressive and counter-productive.
Humanity lived most of its life under one censorship or another. For example in the Western World until the early 1800s, dissonant chords in music were de facto forbidden, being 'develish' sounds. The Romantic revolution removed this censorship.

It took countless generation of freedom fighters to have the Charter of Rights and Freedom (crafted during the French Revolution around 1792), including the cherished 'freedom of expression'.

Although I'm canadian, I know you americans are proud of your first amendement about 'freedom of speech' - a seminal part of your mind-frame. I think written aroun 1776?

On the net there is stunning sites. I don't know if rotten.com is 'filthy'. I know it's disturbing (don't go there filbert or don't blame me) and I avoid it. I go there every 6 months. Somehow its content is transcending, since it is so beyond my day-to-day life.
Then there is an infinite amount of erotic content on the net, They say 'sex' is the most-searched word in search engines.
Then there is really inspiring, creative sites. www.venosa.com brokensaint.com It's endless.

I will side with quiter on this one:

Quote: (...) in this case i would like like to suggest the television philosophy, if you do not like what you see change the channel(...)

I think FP's thread which inflamed your righteous mind is not 'porn', since you used that word. Porn is something else altogether. His thread definitely is not related to ThinkTank the game, but then FP somehow is entitled to do this because of his very TT credentials: he maintains a website dedicated to TT and offers skins, mods, maps and a customized experience. Plus he administers the BattleMode league. He does both quite well, given his contribution is volunteered and he does that for the love of the game and of its community.
So FP cannot be accused of being a vain contributer of trash threads - because his contribution to the TT community is very real and overall positive.

However, any newcomer who would post out-of-context threads perhaps would not get the same answer. Some people have more clout, and often for good reasons.


'What you write after a good night sleep and a coffee'
HB

#29 Filbert, you should just give up. Don't be an idiot and keep this stuff going, Play the game, and if the forums bother you, stay off of them, aka "television philosophy" as quoted above. You've stated your point. People have agreed and disagreed with you, and now I think this thread should go to the place it belongs, the back of the line. And maybe, please, THINK before you put ANYTHING up on the forums. Either let your 51st thread just ferment in the back of your brain for a good long while, or continue junking the forums. Hold it to a minimum please, whatever you do on here. Follow this pattern off meekness and submission, which are pretty darn good character traits anyway, and you'll gain respect slowly on here. I shouldn't be telling you this, I'm a relative newcomer myself, only had the game for five months, BUT, I think I still have made my point here. Minimal output from Filbert, and only when it's well thought over.

Ben(SA)

#30 Yo Ben turn the channel if you don't like what's on. I'd have to agree with Mark here. Hugo, I understand & agree mostly with what you're saying but I differ a bit. This board is not the internet. It's a privately owned website. They can can to choose to censor, modify, create, & delete content as they choose. Most discussion boards I've witnessed do indeed have moderators who at times do just that. As far as FP goes he definitely does violate what Jay Moore at Garage Games has told me is allowable content here on the boards. The funny part to me is that he gets away with it. Perhaps that just reiterates what I said up top. I think some of Foul's posts at this point reflect more on the poor judgement of Garage Games than on himself.

Az

#31 Az is correct, this is a place that sdhould be moderated. I sugjested that earlier and it was booed down. But I still think, if we can not moderate ourselves, we should have someone do it for us.
@Hugo: Freedom of speeche is mis-understood. It is not the right to post porn, (fp called it that himself) on the internet in front of minors.

#32 Filbert you have every right to post what you want here, especially if it pertains to TT. I'm sure you figured out by now that there will always be people who call you names for doing so. Some of these nuts get in a groove and want to treat you badly because they have done so in the past and like to hold on to their anger. Some don't seem to realize that when they post to a thread it puts it at the top just like everyone else. I can only chuckle when I see people asking you to think before posting. Your posts are, at the very least, as relevant as any others I see here. I'm sure if you posted under another name people wouldn't be standing in line to #%$$ on you.

#33 Is Filbert any different than FP?


"Bullies are not leaders of men they are bullies of men"

MAXCR

#34 Heh. They are both protected by the free speech amendment, as pointed out by a Canadian! Why didn't us Americans figure it out first...

#35 Yes oppinions are intitled, but not in a public forum seen by minors, when those oppinions are dirty and ugly. WILL
GARAGEGAMES PLEASE GET A MODERATOR FOR THIS PLACE?

#36 O sTEALTH, YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE WORLD...AND YOU ALSO MISUNDERSTAND HOW PARENTAL FILTERS WORK. i STILL WANNA ACDES THE FORUMS LOL! aND THE IN GAME TURNS OF all CHAT!

#37 Go down to your local grocery store and swear at children. You'll find freedom of speech doesn't overrule private property rights.

Other parts of the GarageGames forums are moderated to a minor degree. There have been threads that were deleted by the owners of GG. What was deleted? Threads that turned into a flame war, where the issues had been put aside and it degenerated into personal attacks on one another. These things tear communities apart rather than building them up. And threads have been removed because of it. But the GG folks don't have time or the interest to read the TT forums. So there is freedom to post things here that wouldn't fly in the rest of the forums.

But just because you can, does it mean you should?

If your goal is to have fun, and it's obvious the receiving party of the mockery isn't having fun in the transaction, then it is just shallow fun for you at the expense of another. In this situation, it's best to move on and find someone else who will actually have fun when engaging in that particular behavior.

Personally I'd like to see a slashdot type system, where posts are ranked so you can browse at the intelligence/maturity level you prefer. Not sure if the community is big enough for that to work though. Also that requires quite a bit of work/time of the part of the web developers, so we aren't likely to see it any time soon if at all.

Which is why I'll reiterate my previous point. Know your audience before you post. Yes, Filbert has to take some responsibility to show patience with those he disagrees with. But you too, (whoever is reading this), also have to show responsibility use discretion before you post.

Cut the kids some slack.

-- 56k

#38 Filbert, I wasn't saying that the forum should or shouldn't be moderated. i was merely stating what a representative of Garage Games laid out to me as their acceptable use policy of the community forum message boards here.

Mark, my experience with Jay anyway was that he did pay some attention to the goings on over here. However, by the looks of things at times perhaps not so much these days

If anyone wants to bring something to their attention regarding the message boards there's a place for that. Just look it up on the forum directory.

Az

#39

#40 Quiter said it well, so did others. Change the channel/don't load the thread if it doesn't interest you. A number of people said it. But as FP is proving above, this has to be a 2 way street.

Filbert is not the only one who needs to be turning the channel when things don't suit his appetite.

If a thread is annoying, stop reading it. Show a little self control, and don't start an unneeded flame in it. It'll go away faster that way. (As has also been previously mentioned.)

It's fine and well to tell Filbert to get out of the fire if he can't stand the heat. But it's another thing to tell him to get out of his own thread because you set it on fire.

It's too easy to tell someone else how to behave, and not take your own advice.

Yes, I'm belaboring the point, and most of you got it by now, but meh... I'm in a typing mood, and repetition makes my mind remember better.
-- 56k