Scrum League: Updates, Changes!
by Loler · in ThinkTanks · 09/08/2003 (8:12 pm) · 109 replies
Hi all,
Just in case you havn't noticed, I was away from working on the league for a large portion of the summer. This was for many reasons, not the least of which was simply because I was lazy, but now I am back at it and making several major reoganizations.
#1. Team Captains:
~*~ Implemented in my absence! ~*~
I have decided to implement team captains in the league system to help keep the teams together and working properly. The team captains will be elected by the members of teams that email me with their nomination within a 4-day period, This wednesday through saturday.If this fails I will appoint captains to the teams that no one was nominated in. Team captains will have the ability to shuffle their teams roster and arrange practices.
#2. Talent Pool:
As a tool for the team captains I will be assembling a site that lists all players not currently suspended or playing wiht one of the teams and their email addresses. Captains will be able to use this to recruit new players if they need them.
During the time until saturday I will be setting all this up so that the league can continue normal (and hopefully more stable) operations from now on.
Loler
Just in case you havn't noticed, I was away from working on the league for a large portion of the summer. This was for many reasons, not the least of which was simply because I was lazy, but now I am back at it and making several major reoganizations.
#1. Team Captains:
~*~ Implemented in my absence! ~*~
I have decided to implement team captains in the league system to help keep the teams together and working properly. The team captains will be elected by the members of teams that email me with their nomination within a 4-day period, This wednesday through saturday.If this fails I will appoint captains to the teams that no one was nominated in. Team captains will have the ability to shuffle their teams roster and arrange practices.
#2. Talent Pool:
As a tool for the team captains I will be assembling a site that lists all players not currently suspended or playing wiht one of the teams and their email addresses. Captains will be able to use this to recruit new players if they need them.
During the time until saturday I will be setting all this up so that the league can continue normal (and hopefully more stable) operations from now on.
Loler
#62
Few issues here to clear up.
#1: Server: The scrum league server is (or was) a Homelan server if I recall correctly. Therefore there isn't much I can do if Homelan pulled their server support or is having tech problems.
#2: Motion: I will agree to let TD take the reigns if the league wants him to. I agree that I am probably not availiable as much as needed to make the league run smoothly but the problem hasn't been just with that. I cannot make people show up at games, if they don't want to they won't. I hope captains will start taking greater action against no showers (I know I am one. I may have to resign from my team as saturday is no longer free for me. I have not made more teams to enlist new players in because we are having trouble getting full teams out as it is.
Well, thanks for the good times all. TD, if you want to do this I will give you the login info to the scrum league site. I think you may be able to do a better job than me.
Thanks all,
Loler
09/23/2003 (3:46 pm)
Hi all,Few issues here to clear up.
#1: Server: The scrum league server is (or was) a Homelan server if I recall correctly. Therefore there isn't much I can do if Homelan pulled their server support or is having tech problems.
#2: Motion: I will agree to let TD take the reigns if the league wants him to. I agree that I am probably not availiable as much as needed to make the league run smoothly but the problem hasn't been just with that. I cannot make people show up at games, if they don't want to they won't. I hope captains will start taking greater action against no showers (I know I am one. I may have to resign from my team as saturday is no longer free for me. I have not made more teams to enlist new players in because we are having trouble getting full teams out as it is.
Well, thanks for the good times all. TD, if you want to do this I will give you the login info to the scrum league site. I think you may be able to do a better job than me.
Thanks all,
Loler
#63
In your absence, TT has grown a lot and it seems managing the league is much more of a time consuming task. Also, I enjoy playing with the veterans and miss your involvement for that reason as well.
As I stated I for one would love for you to continue if your schedule permitted. TD would make a great manager but he hasn't said he's available for that yet. Perhaps you two should discuss it.
Az
09/23/2003 (4:08 pm)
Loler you do deserve a whole lot of credit for starting the league way back when, and coming up with a great website for us all. I think you made a huge contribution to the communityIn your absence, TT has grown a lot and it seems managing the league is much more of a time consuming task. Also, I enjoy playing with the veterans and miss your involvement for that reason as well.
As I stated I for one would love for you to continue if your schedule permitted. TD would make a great manager but he hasn't said he's available for that yet. Perhaps you two should discuss it.
Az
#64
Few issues here to clear up.
#1: Server: The scrum league server is (or was) a Homelan server if I recall correctly. Therefore there isn't much I can do if Homelan pulled their server support or is having tech problems.
#2: Motion: I will agree to let TD take the reigns if the league wants him to. I agree that I am probably not availiable as much as needed to make the league run smoothly but the problem hasn't been just with that. I cannot make people show up at games, if they don't want to they won't. I hope captains will start taking greater action against no showers (I know I am one. I may have to resign from my team as saturday is no longer free for me. I have not made more teams to enlist new players in because we are having trouble getting full teams out as it is.
Well, thanks for the good times all. TD, if you want to do this I will give you the login info to the scrum league site. I think you may be able to do a better job than me.
Thanks all,
Loler
09/23/2003 (4:20 pm)
Hi all,Few issues here to clear up.
#1: Server: The scrum league server is (or was) a Homelan server if I recall correctly. Therefore there isn't much I can do if Homelan pulled their server support or is having tech problems.
#2: Motion: I will agree to let TD take the reigns if the league wants him to. I agree that I am probably not availiable as much as needed to make the league run smoothly but the problem hasn't been just with that. I cannot make people show up at games, if they don't want to they won't. I hope captains will start taking greater action against no showers (I know I am one. I may have to resign from my team as saturday is no longer free for me. I have not made more teams to enlist new players in because we are having trouble getting full teams out as it is.
Well, thanks for the good times all. TD, if you want to do this I will give you the login info to the scrum league site. I think you may be able to do a better job than me.
Thanks all,
Loler
#65
2- Indeed we (the players) would like a manager who can do updates as quickly as possible. It is not that much time consuming, just to do a quick update and to upload the page. I'm familiar with FTP so even me, as a captain, could log in after a game, update the stats and upload the refreshed page.
The impossibility of you doing regular updates led me to suggest the motion. Hopefully TD will speak to us,,,
'Behold! Loler hast spokeneth!'
Hugobrain
09/23/2003 (4:23 pm)
1- Loler don't resign from the team, we need you. The times will change - the games won't be just saturday afternoons (which seemed to be awkward for most) but might well be mainly evenings. I suppose more than 1 game a week as well! (The psychoscrum run well, with good showing... Games are at 9CDT, 2 games a week.)2- Indeed we (the players) would like a manager who can do updates as quickly as possible. It is not that much time consuming, just to do a quick update and to upload the page. I'm familiar with FTP so even me, as a captain, could log in after a game, update the stats and upload the refreshed page.
The impossibility of you doing regular updates led me to suggest the motion. Hopefully TD will speak to us,,,
'Behold! Loler hast spokeneth!'
Hugobrain
#66
Loler
09/23/2003 (6:55 pm)
Yeah, updating was never hard, I always seem to be tied down by somthing else :P I hope TD will arrange it so I can play :)Loler
#67
I think what most people ultimately want is a well organized league and some good competive games(and to win, of course :).
Not someones head on a pike.
Adjustments to the teams (signing up more than 5 players to ensure good attendence) and times (hopefully evenings not mid afternoon) will help pit balanced teams against each other.
Onward to the new Scrum League!
Baba
09/23/2003 (7:34 pm)
There's been a lot of frustration and a lot of venting. I think what most people ultimately want is a well organized league and some good competive games(and to win, of course :).
Not someones head on a pike.
Adjustments to the teams (signing up more than 5 players to ensure good attendence) and times (hopefully evenings not mid afternoon) will help pit balanced teams against each other.
Onward to the new Scrum League!
Baba
#68
09/24/2003 (7:55 am)
My expertise is battle, but I think Iwould be an important asset to scrum. LET ME IN! Put your email on the is forum, and I will e-mail you my email.
#69
I am asking each member of the current league to answer the following questions. Please keep your answers short and to the point.
1. What times (using whatever time zone you want) are best for you during the week?
List the three best days and times starting with your most preferable. (times may be on same day)
2. How many players do you feel should be on a team to make sure we have enough players showing for games.
3. Do you think the current teams should be busted up and new teams created? Or should they be left as is and repaired?
4. Do you like the two half games?
5. Would you like to see division play where the teams are divided into two divisions and the season winner of each division battles the other in a superbowl type match?
OR
Do you like the straight elimination style season as it is now?
If you see a member who hasn't responded please point them here so we can hear their opinions.
Tank Dork
09/24/2003 (9:15 am)
We have discussed the direction and problems of the league at great length but there is still no consensus of direction on several topics. I request the following before I decide whether it is within my time constraints to manage the league.I am asking each member of the current league to answer the following questions. Please keep your answers short and to the point.
1. What times (using whatever time zone you want) are best for you during the week?
List the three best days and times starting with your most preferable. (times may be on same day)
2. How many players do you feel should be on a team to make sure we have enough players showing for games.
3. Do you think the current teams should be busted up and new teams created? Or should they be left as is and repaired?
4. Do you like the two half games?
5. Would you like to see division play where the teams are divided into two divisions and the season winner of each division battles the other in a superbowl type match?
OR
Do you like the straight elimination style season as it is now?
If you see a member who hasn't responded please point them here so we can hear their opinions.
Tank Dork
#70
1) My game time preferences are as follows:
#1 Tuesdays 9pm EST
#2 Wednesday 9pm EST and
#3 Thursday 9pm EST.
Saturdays are a problem with weekend fun etc.
2) I think that when playing, teams should be made of 5 players each. Each team should have a total of 8 players though, 5 core players for game play and 3 as alternates for no-shows.
3) Current teams are fine by me.
4) I like the 2 half games set up.
5) If we get more teams going, maybe the division play could come in handy, but for now the straight elimination style seems good (Ideally everyone would play about once per week).
My thoughts anyway,
-ACA
09/24/2003 (9:39 am)
I'll aswer the questions point by point:1) My game time preferences are as follows:
#1 Tuesdays 9pm EST
#2 Wednesday 9pm EST and
#3 Thursday 9pm EST.
Saturdays are a problem with weekend fun etc.
2) I think that when playing, teams should be made of 5 players each. Each team should have a total of 8 players though, 5 core players for game play and 3 as alternates for no-shows.
3) Current teams are fine by me.
4) I like the 2 half games set up.
5) If we get more teams going, maybe the division play could come in handy, but for now the straight elimination style seems good (Ideally everyone would play about once per week).
My thoughts anyway,
-ACA
#71
#2 Tuesday 7pm PDT
#3 Wednesday 7pm PDT
2) Field 5, total of 8-10 on team
3) Keep the teams as is, get Captains to add to rosters to ensure good attendence
4) 2 half is cool
4) No Divisions unless a large # of teams develop, better to play all teams through the season.
Baba
09/24/2003 (11:04 am)
1)#1 Saturday 6pm PDT#2 Tuesday 7pm PDT
#3 Wednesday 7pm PDT
2) Field 5, total of 8-10 on team
3) Keep the teams as is, get Captains to add to rosters to ensure good attendence
4) 2 half is cool
4) No Divisions unless a large # of teams develop, better to play all teams through the season.
Baba
#72
2) Max 8 per team. First 5 to show play. If someone drops off the roster let the captain recruit a new member
3) I like my teams:). As is is fine. New teams is cool too.
4) I like 2 games aggregate high score wins
5) I like to see things move towards a season ending playoff scenario. I don't know if we have enough players to make this work yet.
Az
09/24/2003 (6:02 pm)
1) Open other than I prefer not to play on Sunday.2) Max 8 per team. First 5 to show play. If someone drops off the roster let the captain recruit a new member
3) I like my teams:). As is is fine. New teams is cool too.
4) I like 2 games aggregate high score wins
5) I like to see things move towards a season ending playoff scenario. I don't know if we have enough players to make this work yet.
Az
#73
2- Up to 10. Better having 1-2 players sitting outside a game than the weak (1-2-3 players) showings of the previous league.
3- Teams who want to stay together should be able to do so. Note that players are free at any time to leave a team or be traded for another one. Also, TGS and TH did some recruiting lately. (I'd rather not do another recruiting drive). Lots of good players waiting in the talent pool
4- Yes 2 half games best. allowing a comeback in second game.
5- Yes, I "Do like the straight elimination style season as it is now". Fun to play all teams.
Thanks!
'Let's keep it under 1000 words...'
Brain
09/24/2003 (6:09 pm)
1- Anytime but Thursday Nite is good for me. Hope the league will play at least 2 games / week.2- Up to 10. Better having 1-2 players sitting outside a game than the weak (1-2-3 players) showings of the previous league.
3- Teams who want to stay together should be able to do so. Note that players are free at any time to leave a team or be traded for another one. Also, TGS and TH did some recruiting lately. (I'd rather not do another recruiting drive). Lots of good players waiting in the talent pool
4- Yes 2 half games best. allowing a comeback in second game.
5- Yes, I "Do like the straight elimination style season as it is now". Fun to play all teams.
Thanks!
'Let's keep it under 1000 words...'
Brain
#74
09/24/2003 (6:11 pm)
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#75
2) I think 8 per team should be enough
3) Current teams are OK (Highlanders getting better!)
4) 2 games better
5) Need more teams for divisions, playoffs, etc. With the number of teams we have now, the setup is fine.
Sherm
09/24/2003 (7:51 pm)
1) After 8pm PST, almost any day. Afternoons no good for me.2) I think 8 per team should be enough
3) Current teams are OK (Highlanders getting better!)
4) 2 games better
5) Need more teams for divisions, playoffs, etc. With the number of teams we have now, the setup is fine.
Sherm
#77
09/27/2003 (1:23 pm)
It's up with the pw off. Perhaps Prey can host. I'll be around as well.
#78
The Highlanders showed up with a full roster :)! The Ghost Squadron didnt show up :(!
Well I found sub players for GS but the length of time it took we had some players drop during the game. Plus team switching going on to even things out. Thus the following stats are only the game ending ones. If your individual stats dont reflect your point total just post and I'll edit them in. Thx.
Final - GS 21 TH 17
Game 1
TH
Sherman - 4
Ghost -1
itank - 1
Weentank - 1
GS
parDawg - 3
Hugobrain - 2
Spony - 2
Azazel - 1
Game 2
TH
WeenTank - 2
itank - 1
Sherman - 5
GS
Spony - 6
Azazel - 2
ParDawg - 1
Three cheers to Sherman for putting together a team that shows up in force!!
The league is in a state of disarray this week due to the upcoming overhaul. I'm sure any day day now it will be straightened out. A new season may be just a week away! Your captains will keep you informed.
Az
09/27/2003 (3:14 pm)
Stats for 2PM Game 9/27The Highlanders showed up with a full roster :)! The Ghost Squadron didnt show up :(!
Well I found sub players for GS but the length of time it took we had some players drop during the game. Plus team switching going on to even things out. Thus the following stats are only the game ending ones. If your individual stats dont reflect your point total just post and I'll edit them in. Thx.
Final - GS 21 TH 17
Game 1
TH
Sherman - 4
Ghost -1
itank - 1
Weentank - 1
GS
parDawg - 3
Hugobrain - 2
Spony - 2
Azazel - 1
Game 2
TH
WeenTank - 2
itank - 1
Sherman - 5
GS
Spony - 6
Azazel - 2
ParDawg - 1
Three cheers to Sherman for putting together a team that shows up in force!!
The league is in a state of disarray this week due to the upcoming overhaul. I'm sure any day day now it will be straightened out. A new season may be just a week away! Your captains will keep you informed.
Az
#79
Sorry (esp. to my team) that I had to leave during game 2. As it is with every Saturday, I have an appointment at 2:45 PST which I must respect. If the games start on time then I can stay for their entirety.
Now , I believe that in the second game I had 5 pts. b4 I left. Does anyone in the game remember this? (I hope I'm not remembering a different game). If so, then do my 5 pts. count? I also thought we won game one by 1 point?
I may just be seeing things....
Sherman
p.s. Thanks to all the Highlanders who showed up! It's just that the Highlanders curse is still with us (that and the fact that I made some bone head mistakes!)
09/27/2003 (4:37 pm)
Az,Sorry (esp. to my team) that I had to leave during game 2. As it is with every Saturday, I have an appointment at 2:45 PST which I must respect. If the games start on time then I can stay for their entirety.
Now , I believe that in the second game I had 5 pts. b4 I left. Does anyone in the game remember this? (I hope I'm not remembering a different game). If so, then do my 5 pts. count? I also thought we won game one by 1 point?
I may just be seeing things....
Sherman
p.s. Thanks to all the Highlanders who showed up! It's just that the Highlanders curse is still with us (that and the fact that I made some bone head mistakes!)
i officially need a shower. that was one of the more intense rounds in recent memory. HB is my shadow, always a challenge. HB+Az is a total friggin nightmare.
Azazel