UFOs for the masses!
by Hugobrain · in ThinkTanks · 08/23/2003 (11:33 am) · 22 replies
1- Here is the deal: I can't afford 5+ hours of solo play to unlock the UFO. I could reach 500K, that's not the problem, I am Brain. But I'd rather play online those 5+ hours! I'm not 16 anymore, and my plate is overflowing. (I never played solo. I can't stand playing against machine - too boring. Love to play against humans).
2- More and more people are seen using the UFO. Some hacked their way mb, some did the 500k deal.
3- I think the UFO is a fair and balanced unit. An ultra-light tank. It has both and edge and some flaws.
4- I would love to access it and to play it. Like any other units. Q: WHY CAN'T THE DEVELOPPERS UNLOCK THE UFO FOR EVERYONE AND MAKE IT PLAYABLE ON ALL SERVER? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? JUST ANOTHER UNIT!
Thank you for your time!
'I can't stand the spooky noise they do"
Hugobrain
2- More and more people are seen using the UFO. Some hacked their way mb, some did the 500k deal.
3- I think the UFO is a fair and balanced unit. An ultra-light tank. It has both and edge and some flaws.
4- I would love to access it and to play it. Like any other units. Q: WHY CAN'T THE DEVELOPPERS UNLOCK THE UFO FOR EVERYONE AND MAKE IT PLAYABLE ON ALL SERVER? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? JUST ANOTHER UNIT!
Thank you for your time!
'I can't stand the spooky noise they do"
Hugobrain
#2
P.S JOE DO YOU EVER PLAY YOUR OWN GAME!! IF SO WHATS YOUR NAME
LOL
08/23/2003 (12:54 pm)
Joe the only way to get it is to "CHEAT" in solo anyway nobody is that good to score 500,000 legit so i say ya give it away just be sure to keep it to homeland so people have a choice about playing with it. I see alot of complaints about not being able to see what direction the dam thing is going lol. I earned mine I just hated it taking 5 hours!P.S JOE DO YOU EVER PLAY YOUR OWN GAME!! IF SO WHATS YOUR NAME
LOL
#3
I have not had much of a chance to play lately as we have been busy doing tech support, prototyping our next game, contract work, and working on a few things for TT.
When I do play, I am known as Pokemalo.
08/23/2003 (12:58 pm)
:)I have not had much of a chance to play lately as we have been busy doing tech support, prototyping our next game, contract work, and working on a few things for TT.
When I do play, I am known as Pokemalo.
#5
While the game was novel with the UFO's buzzing around the goal snatching the ball as I approached the goal, it did seem decidedly unfair to land based vehicles.
Now that said there was one UFO who had much greater skills (and greater score) than others and perhaps I am basing my assessmnet on a skill imbalance.
Not sure of the mixing of UFO's and tanks.
Maybe certain servers for UFO's and tanks if you wished....
Of course those with hacked UFO's might be of a mind to go as they please, so how that would be restricted I don't know.
While usually not for more restrictions and "rules" in TT's, I wonder what others think as UFO's are now becoming more and more of a presence?
Baba
08/23/2003 (1:32 pm)
In a scrum game last night many many UFO's appeared. I remained in my light (not a capable hacker even if I wanted to). While the game was novel with the UFO's buzzing around the goal snatching the ball as I approached the goal, it did seem decidedly unfair to land based vehicles.
Now that said there was one UFO who had much greater skills (and greater score) than others and perhaps I am basing my assessmnet on a skill imbalance.
Not sure of the mixing of UFO's and tanks.
Maybe certain servers for UFO's and tanks if you wished....
Of course those with hacked UFO's might be of a mind to go as they please, so how that would be restricted I don't know.
While usually not for more restrictions and "rules" in TT's, I wonder what others think as UFO's are now becoming more and more of a presence?
Baba
#6
Hopefully, people will see the special UFO, want one, find out how to get one and will go away and practice on solo to get one. Perhaps, when these people return to the game servers they will be more competant players, and wont feel like they have to camp to score a point in a game.
As for the game balance... I think if anything, it is more in the light tanks favour. UFOs are such flimsy little things than even the tiniest advantage that they have with speed is easily outweighed by their lack of armour. In fact, in repeated tests of 5 gold lights against 5 ufos at scrum, the lights won everytime by a staggering majority. (13-4, 15-2, 14-1, 13-3, 16-2) If this doesnt say something about the UFOs being more disadvantaged, then I don't know what does.
I do think this is good though. UFO's shouldn't really be equal or better than the tanks. After all, the game is ThinkTANKS not ThinkUFOs. They are immensely fun to use though and are a great novelty that shouldnt be denied from those players unable to score the incredibly challenging 500,000 points.
They are also equally feeble if not even more so in battlemode as they only need a few direct hits to send bring them falling from the air.
-Z-
08/23/2003 (3:29 pm)
Im not sure making it available to everyone immediately is the best option, however, reducing the score needed to unlock it to a reasonable level to allow everyone to unlock it themselves with a bit of practice is a better one.Hopefully, people will see the special UFO, want one, find out how to get one and will go away and practice on solo to get one. Perhaps, when these people return to the game servers they will be more competant players, and wont feel like they have to camp to score a point in a game.
As for the game balance... I think if anything, it is more in the light tanks favour. UFOs are such flimsy little things than even the tiniest advantage that they have with speed is easily outweighed by their lack of armour. In fact, in repeated tests of 5 gold lights against 5 ufos at scrum, the lights won everytime by a staggering majority. (13-4, 15-2, 14-1, 13-3, 16-2) If this doesnt say something about the UFOs being more disadvantaged, then I don't know what does.
I do think this is good though. UFO's shouldn't really be equal or better than the tanks. After all, the game is ThinkTANKS not ThinkUFOs. They are immensely fun to use though and are a great novelty that shouldnt be denied from those players unable to score the incredibly challenging 500,000 points.
They are also equally feeble if not even more so in battlemode as they only need a few direct hits to send bring them falling from the air.
-Z-
#7
Ben
08/23/2003 (4:00 pm)
Ufo's are pretty cool but not practicable to fight in. FoulPlay hacked a game or something where we fought and scrummed with ufo bots. The end score in the battle i played was 108-57 I think. In the scrum we won 9-8 even with just 7 humans against 15? ufos. They might be fun but i'm fine going without one. The ufo's are a fun little toy, not a fighting vehicle.Ben
#8
manipulating scripts to gain an unfair advantage is hacking.
08/23/2003 (4:26 pm)
Changing $pref settings that the devs leave in is not hacking.manipulating scripts to gain an unfair advantage is hacking.
#9
Not doing it:
1. People who want one will have to become really good players in order to win. Solo is good pra ctice.
2. It is not impossible to get a ufo, it just takes lots of time.
3. Ufos are cool because it is still pretty novel to see one.
Doing it:
1. We don't want to breed big hackers, because if it is new tanks now it will be super bomb guns next, if some of those demos can hack that would be BAD.
2. It really does take a long time to get 500k without any kind of save. You adults seem to think that you have it bad with no time for tanking. What with homework, parents, and rules i will not have much time to play online, let alone solo. I know for myself, I have to share a mac with accounts and since there is no save for solo (HINT, HINT, DEVELOPERS) if someone else wants to use the computer i am sunk. My parents are not exactly big fans of TT, so they are not going to be real sympathetic about not being able to use the comp for 5 hours straight. Also, they want to impose a new rule, only 30 minutes of TT a day (waaaaa). That means no one else can go into a different account for 10 days, and that is if it only takes me 5 hours. Since I am currently on level 4, things look grim for me ever getting a ufo (waaaa).
I know what you're all thinking, "god what a whiner, when is he going to shut up, puh-lease, you think life is rough now, ha" but it is sort of depressing for me (30 minutes a day, help!).
3. I have yet to see a ufo in person, and i want to, but if it continues like this, i don't know if i will. I am not sure i have been in the right servers tho, which ones support ufos now?? I saw dev yesterday in a heavy, said it was a ufo but we just couldn't see it. Huh?
Okay, now i will shut up, sorry for going on like that.
I wanna ufo!
*
" *, what the - - - - are you driving and where the - - - - did you get it"
08/23/2003 (9:35 pm)
I am not sure whether ufos should be public, here are some reasons to and to not do it:Not doing it:
1. People who want one will have to become really good players in order to win. Solo is good pra ctice.
2. It is not impossible to get a ufo, it just takes lots of time.
3. Ufos are cool because it is still pretty novel to see one.
Doing it:
1. We don't want to breed big hackers, because if it is new tanks now it will be super bomb guns next, if some of those demos can hack that would be BAD.
2. It really does take a long time to get 500k without any kind of save. You adults seem to think that you have it bad with no time for tanking. What with homework, parents, and rules i will not have much time to play online, let alone solo. I know for myself, I have to share a mac with accounts and since there is no save for solo (HINT, HINT, DEVELOPERS) if someone else wants to use the computer i am sunk. My parents are not exactly big fans of TT, so they are not going to be real sympathetic about not being able to use the comp for 5 hours straight. Also, they want to impose a new rule, only 30 minutes of TT a day (waaaaa). That means no one else can go into a different account for 10 days, and that is if it only takes me 5 hours. Since I am currently on level 4, things look grim for me ever getting a ufo (waaaa).
I know what you're all thinking, "god what a whiner, when is he going to shut up, puh-lease, you think life is rough now, ha" but it is sort of depressing for me (30 minutes a day, help!).
3. I have yet to see a ufo in person, and i want to, but if it continues like this, i don't know if i will. I am not sure i have been in the right servers tho, which ones support ufos now?? I saw dev yesterday in a heavy, said it was a ufo but we just couldn't see it. Huh?
Okay, now i will shut up, sorry for going on like that.
I wanna ufo!
*
" *, what the - - - - are you driving and where the - - - - did you get it"
#10
The 30 minute limit is pretty harsh, just enough to get the juices flowing.
I've got the "problem" (not really) that my two sons also play so there is a line at the G4 to play. The G3 is very slow and has poor graphics. ..
With school about to start we will have to set some limits here I suppose but I will have to live by them too. We try to be a democratic and egalitarian household.
Z-
Glad to hear Lights beat UFO's at scrum in a equal setting.
That seems right . When I played I was near sleep and 1 of 2 lights amongst many UFO's.
500,000 points?! I think I'll be land based for a while.
Baba
08/23/2003 (10:41 pm)
Hey *The 30 minute limit is pretty harsh, just enough to get the juices flowing.
I've got the "problem" (not really) that my two sons also play so there is a line at the G4 to play. The G3 is very slow and has poor graphics. ..
With school about to start we will have to set some limits here I suppose but I will have to live by them too. We try to be a democratic and egalitarian household.
Z-
Glad to hear Lights beat UFO's at scrum in a equal setting.
That seems right . When I played I was near sleep and 1 of 2 lights amongst many UFO's.
500,000 points?! I think I'll be land based for a while.
Baba
#11
To install it you must be computer savey. the link to my URL is below... enjoy :)
http://homepage.mac.com/hankstagraphix/tank_skin.html
check back for more cool skins i will be creating WHY! because I have nothing better to do.
#1 TANKSTER
08/24/2003 (3:13 am)
WAZZZ UPPP! Hey all you ThinkTankaholics....I just created a new skin for the light tank check out my web page if you want to download it. To install it you must be computer savey. the link to my URL is below... enjoy :)
http://homepage.mac.com/hankstagraphix/tank_skin.html
check back for more cool skins i will be creating WHY! because I have nothing better to do.
#1 TANKSTER
#12
The problem is then your name will be on everyone's tank, at least on your system. Every tank is going to look the same, whatever skin you have.
I think Tankster wrote his name on the bottom of the tank which isn't seen much anyway. I think he has the right to sign his artwork, too. And it's not that difficult to edit it out if its really bothersome to you. Asking him to distribute customized versions to everyone is a bit much, though. :)
08/24/2003 (7:11 am)
Quote:however, can i make one suggestion? take your name off the skins. for yourself its fine, but i dont want your name on MY tank, especially after you have just stolen the scrum from me 2 inches from the goal....But, if you are in to doing custom skins for people, you can put my name where yours is, and email to me.
The problem is then your name will be on everyone's tank, at least on your system. Every tank is going to look the same, whatever skin you have.
I think Tankster wrote his name on the bottom of the tank which isn't seen much anyway. I think he has the right to sign his artwork, too. And it's not that difficult to edit it out if its really bothersome to you. Asking him to distribute customized versions to everyone is a bit much, though. :)
#13
-Z-
08/24/2003 (10:16 am)
Very nice skin there Tanky. I've not yet seen FP's cos his links aren't working, but I'm certainly going to try out yours :)-Z-
#14
PS Tanky my aqua brain would look exellent with your skin so would my blood brain
FP
08/24/2003 (10:44 am)
Nice work tanky, my site should be up by the end of the weekend I have a few skins Ive done.PS Tanky my aqua brain would look exellent with your skin so would my blood brain
FP
#16
and how do you get the ufo by hacking?????????????????
i want the ufo and i can only get 90,4500
08/25/2003 (3:10 am)
How do you make skins??and how do you get the ufo by hacking?????????????????
i want the ufo and i can only get 90,4500
#18
http://homepage.mac.com/hankstagraphix/tank_skin.html
08/25/2003 (12:12 pm)
Hey Jason my medium skin is up and ready for download no need to trade just give me time i will have more up soon... enjoy :)http://homepage.mac.com/hankstagraphix/tank_skin.html
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