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Major Website update in an hour!

by Rick Overman · 12/16/2005 (12:19 pm) · 84 comments

We will be preforming a MAJOR site update in the next hour. During that time the site will be unavailable.

...time passes.

Ok, it looks like it all went as smooth as an update of this size can go. Very few comments so far so betting many of you are still picking your jaw up off the floor and wondering if you are on the right site.

Too many changes to list here. The focus was on core site navigation. Still a few rough edges here and there but I think you'll agree it is easier to find stuff now.

Blog posts now have titles! Also previous / Next blog buttons.

Developer->community page has been totally modified LOTS more info, moved the screenshots up.

New and improved product and demo browsing www.garagegames.com/products/browse/

Over the next few months we will be filing out the Solutions pages and adding case studies.

RSS feeds are a little hosed right now, I'll do my best to get them fixed today.
#41
12/17/2005 (5:30 am)
I agree with Andy Schantz and Randy I like to so all of the updates in one place and bring back the mini frapper. other than awesome job.
#42
12/17/2005 (5:52 am)
Firefox leaves a big empty space between the "What's New" and the blogs window. Also (and perhaps related?) it doesn't show the "More blogs >>" or "More unread posts >>", etc.

Looks good on IE, though. Huge fan of tabbed browsing. =)
#43
12/17/2005 (7:00 am)
Love the new look; definately hard to get so much information together in a coherent way. Great job!

EDIT: Found the "More Unread Posts >>"; thought that feature wasn't around any more; come to daddy!
ADDED: Developer / Community / "More Unread Posts >>"

Great site update!

- Melv.
#44
12/17/2005 (7:50 am)
WOW. I've been watching this be developed here and there but I had no idea how awesome it actually was. Really REALLY great job, guys!
#45
12/17/2005 (9:42 am)
The more I look at it, the more I feel that this update was less about streamlining, and more about trying to be like everyone else... Don't get me wrong, it looks nice, but what happened to the individuality of GG?
#46
12/17/2005 (10:05 am)
Can't make everyone happy I guess.
#47
12/17/2005 (10:23 am)
Gee, really? How astute of you! I bet NO ONE has ever realized that before.
#48
12/17/2005 (11:27 am)
Where am I?
#49
12/17/2005 (12:07 pm)
Yea I am sure GG had a meeting and decided "let's be like everyone else on our web design"?

GG staff trying to improve things and it's just not a fair statement to be made because it's simply untrue.

How do you think people feel after they spend time working on website updates? Saying you don't like something is one thing. Fine, but saying GG had a specific agenda on it's design other than improving it is uncool.
#50
12/17/2005 (12:18 pm)
@Chris: You hit it on the head! Rick and I were sitting around and we thought to ourselves, gee we need to be more like everybody else:)

Kidding aside, individuality has nothing to do with it. Functionality and responding to our customers had everything to do with it. Huge companies with huge web budgets have proven certain techniques for better web navigation and better sell through. The individuality of GG has nothing to do with the navigation of the website. The site is a neccessary evil to sell our products and communicate with our community and customers. Our individuality comes in our people, our business model, our technology, and our games. How many companies invent ground breaking Indie licensing and pricing schemes? How many lose money to bring developers together for IndieGamesCon? How many have employees that constantly patrol the forums giving away free advice and support? Etc, etc.

We do not see ourselves as web artists, but we do see ourselves as groundbreaking in nearly every other aspect of our company. Sorry you don't like the new site, but we feel it is a big step forward to do a better job for every one of our customers.

As I posted in another thread, we will be making a bunch of incremental improvements on the community area of the site. Remember, that I probably use this part of the site more than any of you, so I want it to be as functional as possible. Some of the changes work, and some have taken us back a little, but this new base gives us a lot more power to make it much better than it has ever been. Every time we change the site, we gets complaints, and we will do our best to bring everybody around to the new design.

-Jeff Tunnell, GG
#51
12/17/2005 (1:18 pm)
@Jeff Well you might try and bring people around to your new design, but do you think about how it turns off your customers? Do you sell more when you change stuff? Do you sell less? I can tell you right now im not very happy with the current site not that my complaint will change what will happen, but i can tell you with this new system it doesnt make me want to check out the resources GG has to offer. I wont be buying new products to something i consider less functional now and annoying to look at / use. I might be the only one that feels that way and some people might think im being unreasonable about this, however my view should be important because it cost you money.
#52
12/17/2005 (1:36 pm)
Why don't you tell them what you don't like instead of just "I don't like it".
#53
12/17/2005 (1:54 pm)
@Greg: We certainly like to listen to our customers. However, a simple "I don't like it" does not help much. Edit: If you can elaborate on your problems, maybe we can fix them.
#54
12/17/2005 (2:13 pm)
Greg,

I really like your web design skills on your website... Really makes me want to buy. http://www.violetgames.com/
#55
12/17/2005 (2:39 pm)
There seems to be an issue using Netscape: when I click on a forum thread and then go back to the previous page, (the list of unread posts in this example) - only the top half or so of my screen is filled with the list of unread posts. It cuts it off and it is not possible to scroll down unless I change the size of the text - then it magically appears whole again :)

Edit: Also, on the what's new page, if I change the text zoom to anything above "original", it cuts off the link to "more unread posts".
#56
12/17/2005 (3:05 pm)
honestly, i dont really like the navigation that much. why? because i like to see a list of all the most recient stuff on one page.

i really dont like having to go to 4 different pages just to see what new things people have posted.
#57
12/17/2005 (3:05 pm)
Absolutely WOW! Wonderful job! Big props to everyone involved!!!
#58
12/17/2005 (3:51 pm)
Why the crap does everyone complain whenever GG does something for themselves? I think it looks absolutely stunning, and the only complaints I have is full compatibility for Firefox and Opera, which I use much more often.
#59
12/17/2005 (4:00 pm)
Cameron- 95 percent of the comments on here are about how much people like it. There's a few bits of constructive criticism. And then there's the other stuff. Yeah, the other stuff is annoying, though.
#60
12/17/2005 (4:33 pm)
I love it! Best design yet!